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Old 08-24-2010, 08:37 PM   #1
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I'm going to make my first Black IPA in the next few weeks. Here is the recipe that I have put together (for a 4 gallon batch), and would appreciate any comments. Thanks in advance.

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8.25 lbs Briess 2-Row Brewer's Malt
1.0 lb Crystal 10L
9 oz Weyermann De-Husked Carafa III
8 oz Briess Special Roast Malt

Hops
Simcoe Pellets .7 oz @ 75 mins
Summit Pellets .5 oz @ 20 mins
Amarillo Pellets .5 oz @ 20 mins
Summit Pellets .3 oz @ 5 mins
Amarillo Pellets .3 oz @ 5 mins
Simcoe Pellets .3 oz @ 5 mins
Summit Pellets 1 oz @ Dry (7 days)
Amarillo Pellets 1 oz @ Dry (7 days)

Wyeast 1056 - American Ale

Single infusion mash @ 150 degs for 60 mins.
90 min boil

Here is an estimate of the finishing numbers:

OG = 1.065
FG = 1.016
IBU = 67
SRM = 32
ABV = 6.42%


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Looks pretty good to me. On my next round of a similar beer, I will be mashing closer to 160 as well. I think you will be happy with that temp for this beer.

Is there a particular commercial brew that you were inspired by for this recipe?


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Oops, the mash temperature is supposed to be 150 for 60 mins (I have edited the original post to reflect that change). I am looking for a fairly dry beer. Do you think that is too low?

@Haputanlas. Widmer's Pitch Black IPA inspired this recipe, but I am using completely different hops (Widmer uses Warrior and Cascade) and a different hop schedule. I am using Summit, Simcoe and Amarillo because I have some I need to use, and I like the three in combination with each other.
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Really? 160? I've been using 152 with great results. But I'm starting to see more and more folks use a higher temp with this beer. Interesting. My only other comment is to maybe up the dry hops a little. I've been using 2oz for my DH, but it needs more. This style needs to have a nice in your face aroma. 2oz is almost there, but I suggest more.

Minus the hops, this is quite similar to a recipe I'm using. I use less roast though. Closer to an ounce. And there's still plenty of roast in there.

And like you I based my recipe off the W'10.
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Well, I should say closer to 156-158 for what I am going to try next time. I'm not going for the dry version of this.

160 may be too high
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Oops, the mash temperature is supposed to be 150 for 60 mins (I have edited the original post to reflect that change). I am looking for a fairly dry beer. Do you think that is too low?

@Haputanlas. Widmer's Pitch Black IPA inspired this recipe, but I am using completely different hops (Widmer uses Warrior and Cascade) and a different hop schedule. I am using Summit, Simcoe and Amarillo because I have some I need to use, and I like the three in combination with each other.

I've had that too and I was surprised at how good it was. I'm a huge fan of Sublimely Self Righteous, but the Widmer was fantastic.

You'll be fine at 150 if you want dry.
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@Kilted Brewer. I made a mistake in my initial post, which I have now corrected. The mash temp is supposed to be 150 degrees.

I will have to check to see if I have enough of the Summit to do a 2 oz DH. If so, I will up the amount to 2 oz.
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If you can, I'd actually suggest upping the Amarillo if you can. But I'm a fan of Amarillo. And that 2oz was total, which is where you are now. Maybe just up to 3 and see.
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I would leave out the roast all together. You'll get more than enough roastiness from the Carafa Special.
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152* is medium, 154* is getting sweet. Most go 150*, I like 149*, but I am not anal on holding exact temps. I just shoot for 149-150, and err to the low side, because I prefer dry.


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