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Old 08-22-2010, 01:15 AM   #1
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Hey all,
I am brewing my fifth or sixth wheat beer soon. The first I made had this wonderful banana/clove flavoring to it. I know it was imparted by the yeast and possibly the temps I was fermenting at. I went on the high side around 70 degrees. I have yet to replicate this taste to the degree I want in my later attempts. I don't remember the yeast I used however. I just ordered white labs american hefe WLP320. Will these American strains of yeast give me the banana clove flavor I want, or do I need to use the more traditional bavarian/german yeasts to get it? Also, can anyone recommend to me a suitable fermentation temp to do this at? Thanks a bunch.


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Old 08-22-2010, 01:23 AM   #2
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Wyeast 3068 defintely produces those flavors strongly. LAst time I fermented around 70


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Old 08-22-2010, 01:23 AM   #3
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I believe the german wheat yeasts are better known for these qualities. I am going to be using wyeast 3068 soon. Also, good aeration or even open fermentation should increase these flavor qualities. Check out brewingtv.com and watch their "topless hefe" episode.
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Old 08-22-2010, 01:28 AM   #4
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the banana and clove esters in American wheat is quite suppressed because it is not to style, I have always used Wyeast 3068 in my wheats and have had great banana/clove flavors, I believe that the warmer you ferment the better the banana comes through, the cooler you go yields more clove. I would keep a log of your beer recipes, yeast, and the fermenter temps, so you can get a repeatable brew by following the notes.
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Yeah you get clove at lower temps and banana/bubble gum at higher temps. You need to let the temp vary for complexity.
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I'll say go for Wyeast 3068. I started it lower-mid 60s by accident and then let it warm up to mid-upper 60s and one day accidently let it hit lower 70s (blew off). I have a banana bomb that I think is awesome.

I was talking to the guy at the LHBS about it and he said he planned on doing his next wheat by tossing in a few cloves in at the end of fermentation.
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Wyeast 3060 or White Labs 300, they are supposedly the same. Ferment at 64 for more clove, 68-70 for more banana. Throw that American Hefe yeast in the toilet. It does absolutley nothing for me, personally I feel its totally bland.
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WLP-300 and a ferm temp of 68 deg F is perfect for me. Plenty of nana! Love it.

I have brewed more of this style than any other...
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Thanks for the input guys. I already purchased the hefe yeast so next time around i'll go on your yeast suggestions.
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Hey all,
I am brewing my fifth or sixth wheat beer soon. The first I made had this wonderful banana/clove flavoring to it. I know it was imparted by the yeast and possibly the temps I was fermenting at. I went on the high side around 70 degrees. I have yet to replicate this taste to the degree I want in my later attempts. I don't remember the yeast I used however. I just ordered white labs american hefe WLP320. Will these American strains of yeast give me the banana clove flavor I want, or do I need to use the more traditional bavarian/german yeasts to get it? Also, can anyone recommend to me a suitable fermentation temp to do this at? Thanks a bunch.
I was looking for a stronger banana tasting Hefe, I used WL300, and fermented it high like 74*, and got exactly wha I was looking for, along with a nice clover aftertaste.


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