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Old 08-19-2010, 01:01 AM   #1
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Default Racer 5 IPA recipe has changed...why??

Okay well racer 5 was the beer that got me into home brewing I drink or drank alot of it. The last 6 pack of real racer 5 I got was august 5th. Since august 13th the "real" racer 5 has changed. Get some for yourself and check it out.

Okay now for the question why?

according to bear republic's master brewer he said its because they ran out of 2008 cascade and columbus hops and they are now changing to the 2009 hops. I find this to be hard to believe as taste was so off. The beer was clear, no head, no aroma and flat taste. Now Im wondering was he being honest?

I believe either 2 things are going on....

1. They are having technical difficulties at the brewery but are not willing to stop production for the sake of it costing alot if they do.

2. They are attempting to make a cheaper recipe.

I honestly believe the first one but I will die if they dont make the old racer 5 anymore!

So what do you guys think about this?

Why do beers drastically change so suddenly? is this common?


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Old 08-19-2010, 01:28 AM   #2
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It could be that you bought beer that was left in the hot wharehouse too long,or such. I cant get that where I live but I feel your pain. the love for a great beer is beautiful thing.


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Old 08-19-2010, 01:45 AM   #3
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I've bought it from 3 separate locations all are off. 1 being a local tap house with high reputation
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Old 08-19-2010, 01:50 AM   #4
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Hmmmm. Strange coincidence. BYO 250 clone recipe book and zymurgy have different recipes for the clone. WTF is going on? This is much too good a beer to have such shenanigans.
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Old 08-19-2010, 01:56 AM   #5
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many brewers tweak recipes all the time, for a variety of reasons. Most frequent is to iron out season-to-season changes in hops, malt, etc. Different growing conditions mean that year to year characteristics can change (just look at alpha acid content fluctuations, for example - those fluctuations also apply to other characteristics as well). Or maybe one of the specialty malts used has been discontinued, or produced using a different process. Heck, my local water changes in character and mineral composition through the year


Really, the only beers that are 100% consistent batch to batch, year to year, and decade to decade are the light american-type lagers.
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Old 08-19-2010, 06:53 AM   #6
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ewwww light american lagers....NO!!! haha

yea agricultural products are not consistent.... oh well
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Old 08-19-2010, 04:46 PM   #7
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Think of each year's production of beer similar to wine and appreciate the differences. With a volatile ingredient like hops there are going to be differences in each crop. Some are so minor you won't notice a difference, but others will drastically change the taste or cause the brewer to revamp the recipe due to availability or cost.
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:57 PM   #8
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I used to love Leinie's Honey Weiss and I swear they changed the recipe too. Was Racer 5 recently bought out by a BMC?
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I had a bomber last night and it tasted the same to me. I'm on the east coast though, so it may have been produced pre-August 13th.
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Old 08-20-2010, 12:42 PM   #10
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I'm gonna stop on the way home and pick one up too , but it been a while since I have had one. Dont know if I will notice anything different.


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