How to lager w/o a basement - Home Brew Forums
Register Now For Free!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Beginners Beer Brewing Forum > How to lager w/o a basement

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-08-2007, 06:35 PM   #1
joebou4860
 
joebou4860's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Jan 2007
Clayton, NC
Posts: 314
Liked 3 Times on 2 Posts



I live in a house with no basement. Does anyone have any hints on how i would make a lager?

 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2007, 06:36 PM   #2
cweston
 
cweston's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Feb 2006
Manhattan, KS
Posts: 2,014
Liked 18 Times on 11 Posts


You'd need a refridgerator or freezer with an external temp, comtroller.
__________________

Primary: none
Secondary:
Bottle conditioning: Robust Porter
Drinking: Saison Dupont clone, tripel
Coming soon: Columbus APA, Rich Red ale

 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2007, 06:37 PM   #3
loopmd
 
loopmd's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Jan 2005
Omaha, Nebraska
Posts: 657
Liked 7 Times on 4 Posts


use an old refridgerater or freezer. there are some plans floating around here on how to convert these.

dp

 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2007, 06:38 PM   #4
mysterio
Recipes 
 
Dec 2005
Glasgow, Scotland
Posts: 696
Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts


The best option would be to get a second hand fridge and a new thermostat. Fridges are among the easiest things to come by free. Ebay is worth a shot, too. This makes lagering a doddle.

Or you could build a fermentation chiller of some sort. The Ken Shwarz 'son of fermentation chiller' is popular (google search or search on here). Or, you could make a large water bath and put ice in it and monitor the temperatures. Remember you'll need to hold the temperature at or close to freezing for a month after fermentation.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2007, 06:41 PM   #5
olllllo
[]-O-[]
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
olllllo's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Apr 2006
Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 13,330
Liked 140 Times on 114 Posts


Make a Steam Beer/ California Common using Wyeast 2112 California Lager Yeast or White Labs WLP810

Wyeast 2112 California Lager Yeast. Particularly suited for producing 19th century-style West Coast beers. Retains lager characteristics at temperatures up to 65° F, (18° C) and produces malty, brilliantly clear beers. Flocculation - high; apparent attenuation 67-71%. (58-68° F, 14-20° C)
__________________
Rabbit And Coyote Schwag
Rob - Phoenix Ambassador to Milwaukee
Where did your avatar go?
Ginger Beer for Moscow Mules Bacon Vodka
Twitter


 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2007, 06:42 PM   #6
Evan!
 
Evan!'s Avatar
Recipes 
 
Aug 2006
Charlottesville, VA
Posts: 11,863
Liked 88 Times on 73 Posts


Sure...

This ($145)

and

This ($54)

That's my exact setup, for just about $200. You could go a little bigger on the freezer so as to fit two carboys...but, yeah, that's the best way I've found.

If you wanna do it on the cheap, get a big rubbermaid bucket (with the rope handles, like they use for horsefeed and frat kegs). Put the carboy into it, then put some water in. Get a bunch of 1L pepsi bottles and fill them with water, then freeze them. Add the frozen bottles (and refreeze as necessary) to keep the temp where you want it. It's the cheap method, but it's also the PITA method, because you need to monitor it constantly.
__________________
MOSS HOLLOW BREWING CO.
Aristocratic Ales, Lascivious Lagers


.planned:
•Scottish 80/- •Sweet Stout •Roggenbier
.primary | bright:
98: Moss Hollow Soured '09 72: Oude Kriek 99: B-Weisse 102: Brett'd BDSA 104: Feat of Strength Helles Bock 105: Merkin Brown
.on tap | kegged:
XX: Moss Hollow Springs Sparkling Water 95: Gott Mit Uns German Pils 91b: Brown Willie's Oaked Abbey Ale 103: Merkin Stout
98: Yorkshire Special 100: Maple Porter 89: Cidre Saison 101: Steffiweizen '09 (#3)

 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2007, 06:50 PM   #7
the_bird
10th-Level Beer Nerd
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
the_bird's Avatar
Recipes 
 
May 2006
Adams, MA
Posts: 20,916
Liked 534 Times on 429 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by olllllo
Make a Steam Beer/ California Common using Wyeast 2112 California Lager Yeast or White Labs WLP810

Wyeast 2112 California Lager Yeast. Particularly suited for producing 19th century-style West Coast beers. Retains lager characteristics at temperatures up to 65° F, (18° C) and produces malty, brilliantly clear beers. Flocculation - high; apparent attenuation 67-71%. (58-68° F, 14-20° C)
I just had a dopplebock that Brewsmith made with a California Common yeast, and it was damn tasty. I'm inclined to make a few quasi-lagers using this yeast strain while the basement is still in that optimal, low-60s temp.
__________________
Come join Yankee Ingenuity!

"I'm kind of toasted. But I looked at my watch and it's only 6:30 so I can't stop drinking yet." - Yooper's Bob
"Brown eye finally recovered after the abuse it endured in Ptown last weekend, but it took almost a full week." - Paulie
"no, he just doesn't speak 'stupid'. i, however, am fluent...." - motobrewer
"... I'll go both ways." - Melana

 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2007, 02:51 AM   #8
MariaAZ
 
MariaAZ's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Dec 2006
Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 169

We have a never-been-used small chest freezer that I'm debating on using for fermentation (I'm sure the summer temps in central Arizona will be too hot even for ale) or to convert to a kegerator.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2007, 02:58 AM   #9
Brewsmith
 
Brewsmith's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Aug 2005
Torrance, CA
Posts: 6,252
Liked 64 Times on 59 Posts


I did the CA Doppelbock mentioned by the_bird last february. I had a place that stayed around 55 all day long. Beyond that you'll need a fridge as previously mentioned.

If that still isn't an option, you can go really low-tech and use a big ice bath. Use a big plastic bin or even better a picnic cooler, even a rectangular one standing on end and use ice to regulate the temp. It's more work, but it's possible. I heard John Palmer from www.howtobrew.com mention it on a podcast on the Basic Brewing Network.
__________________
Fermenting:#160 Apollo/Calypso Pale Ale
Kegged:#153 Old Helicon Barleywine 2013, #157 Irish Red, #158 Mosaic IPA, #159 Bravo/Delta ESB
Up Next:Brown Porter, American Stout, Imperial Stout
My Recipes
Tuba Sonata

Smith & Co. Custom Tap Handles

 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2007, 04:59 AM   #10
Kaiser
 
Kaiser's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Nov 2005
Pepperell, MA
Posts: 3,895
Liked 129 Times on 75 Posts


Keep watching Craigslist and/or classifieds if you are in a bigger metropolitan area. I had been watching it for about 3 months to find a freezer chest that fits my needs and costs less than $100. Saturday, Bingo. A free one that holds 3 cornies and works just fine. Just a big dent in the back. Now I'm looking for a temp controller w/o paying more than $40.

BTW, free or cheeap fridges seem to be much more common than freezer chests, but they use more power to run.

Kai

 
Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Who Has a Basement? WriterWriter General Chit Chat 53 03-02-2009 09:44 PM
56* in the basement zac General Beer Discussion 3 05-25-2008 01:44 AM
Cold Basement lager. BigKahuna Recipes/Ingredients 1 02-15-2008 09:18 PM
Basement lager rewster451 General Techniques 7 01-06-2006 12:42 PM
Basement cold enough for lager? FrewBrew General Techniques 16 11-13-2005 04:21 PM


Forum Jump