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Old 08-06-2010, 07:33 PM   #1
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I've heard a lot of discussion on wet hops recently. I'd like to try it but I only have a single second-year vine that is producing anything of note. My other 3 vines are all first year and got cooked with our excessively hot summer this year.

So I have been thinking about the possibility of vacuum packing and freezing/storing wet hops. Has anybody tried this? I'm thinking I can go straight from vine to vacuum packed storage bag and right into the freezer.

Would that give the benefit of wet hops without having to use them right away? Or am I likely to just wind up with a bunch of green mush when I try to thaw them for use later?

 
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Old 08-06-2010, 07:49 PM   #2

I wouldn't suggest this. It may work, but you'll still be losing the "fresh hop" flavor you get from wet hopping. I usually brew on the same day I harvest if I'm wanting to do a wet hop ale. You can also store them wet for up to 2 weeks and still make a decent beer.
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Old 08-06-2010, 07:59 PM   #3
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Thanks. What's the ratio if you're using wet hops? I have heard about 5X the amount if you're using wet?

 
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Old 08-06-2010, 08:04 PM   #4
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The expansion of water when it freezes has the tendency to break down biological compounds, rupture cells, etc. I am not familiar enough with the structure of the flavor causing compounds, but I would venture to guess it is similar in this case.

5x or 6x. 6x seems to be more accurately quoted but 5x is often used to simplify the math. In the end, you will be guessing either way since you don't know the AA% of your own hops anyway.

 
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Old 08-06-2010, 08:20 PM   #5
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You can freeze wet hops. Yes, you will have frozen bags of green mush, but that won't change the aroma oils. 6x is the best number and don't forget to freeze them in usable quantities.

Bear in mind that hops are normally dried at 140F or so. Drying them at 80-90F will leave you with the lighter oils that make wet hop beers interesting.

 
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Old 08-09-2010, 04:32 PM   #6
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the only good place for wet hops is in your wort
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the only good place for wet hops is in your wort
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You can vacuum freeze them as was mentioned. They are like a big brick once frozen but you can break off pieces for what you need.

 
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Old 08-10-2010, 04:07 PM   #8
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i recently froze 6 oz of mine that were ready to be picked and used them 3 days later as a wet hop late addition. when i took them out of the freezer and thawed they had a grassy scent to them so i wouldn't recommend freezing. perhaps you can just leave them on the bine for a few extra days to preserve their freshness?
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i recently froze 6 oz of mine that were ready to be picked and used them 3 days later as a wet hop late addition. when i took them out of the freezer and thawed they had a grassy scent to them so i wouldn't recommend freezing. perhaps you can just leave them on the bine for a few extra days to preserve their freshness?
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To HoppyDaze and anyone else,

It's clear that you believe freezing wet hops will produce negative effects, but can you explain why specifically?
I suspect that lupulin powder (and its flavor) are not created as a plant cell, but are less complex than that. Not sure but if I'm right, then how would the rupturing/freezing of hop cells be bad? -especially when you do all that rupturing/freezing is done in the almost-complete absence of oxygen?
Grassy smell or no, I've yet to see anyone's explanation of exactly what happens when you make beer this way.
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