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View Poll Results: FININGS - Which do you like best and why compared & vs nothing used.
Biofine 14 14.89%
Isinglass 6 6.38%
Gelatin 45 47.87%
Nothing 32 34.04%
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Old 08-05-2010, 07:04 AM   #1
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Experienced Homebrewers

We need your input. Please conciensiously post your comparitive observations. Please dont post short uninformative statements, and please for John Barleycorns sake dont talk out yer butt. Please have used 2 of these, and contrast them, and/or vs (none used) if possible.

Speaking for myself. I use bentonite exclusively in wine making because all my research says it has the best cost/benifit/negetive/positive ratio of all the fining agents...other than TIME. Could or should I use this in my secondary.

For two years now I have not fined my beer, at all, and would now like to get more of the yeast out before kegging, and/or/to the bottle. Without filtering.

Thanks for all your input.

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Old 08-05-2010, 10:00 PM   #2
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I have used gelatin exclusively for beer. I only use it on beers that I really want to clear up or with yeast strains that don't flocculate well. As gelatin has worked so well and is cheap I haven't felt the need to try anything else. Will be interested to hear what others have to say about the other agents.

For wine the kits I buy use both bentonite and isinglass.

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Old 08-05-2010, 10:24 PM   #3
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Possibly relevant: there are two types of Biofine, Biofine Clear and Biofine P019. They're different products with different properties.

Possibly irrelevant: I generally don't use any of the above because I sometimes take my beer to parties and it's a pain in the butt figuring if anyone's a vegetarian and how strict they are--isinglass, gelatin, and Biofine P019 are all non-vegetarian, though I think Biofine Clear is vegan. As an omnivore myself I might have the Biofines mixed up.
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Old 08-09-2010, 08:16 PM   #4
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Biofine Clear is the vegan friendly version...

"Biofine is a purified form of collagen isolated from the swim bladders of tropical fish. The isinglass molecule is a triple helix of amino acids, with an overall net positive charge at beer pH. It forms large aggregates with the negatively charged yeast cells thereby increasing their rate of sedimentation.

Biofine Clear has been specially formulated for the rapid sedimentation of yeast and other haze forming particles in beer. It is based on colloidal silicon dioxide and as such complies with all legislation and allergen labelling issues."

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So whats going on here. Almost 150 of you guys have looked at this poll & topic, and only 3 of you have every used any of these?

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So whats going on here. Almost 150 of you guys have looked at this poll & topic, and only 3 of you have every used any of these?

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I've only used the gelatin so I can't vote on the subject since I know nothing of the other products. Also, gelatin works great. Curious about how others view the other compounds....

 
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Old 08-12-2010, 09:43 PM   #7
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I have only used one of them but with good results so I will vote for it.

 
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Old 08-12-2010, 09:46 PM   #8
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For beer, it's gelatin. Works a charm.
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I've used isinglass in wine. In my opinion, beer doesn't usually need finings. It's easy to get a clear beer without them. Since some of my friends are vegans or vegetarians, I don't like adding things that would be unexpected. Animal products in beer would fall into the "unexpected" category, I'd think.

I try to remember to use Whirfloc in the kettle, to help coagulate proteins from the break material. Sometimes I remember, sometimes I forget. I don't know if I see a huge difference in clarity in beers that have it vs. beers that simply just had more time in the keg. Time usually fixes almost all clarity issues.
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Old 08-12-2010, 10:07 PM   #10

I have used gelatin and nothing. Thats two right? . I generally just use gelatin when I am making a light colored beer and I want it clean looking rather quickly. Like Yoop says most of the time its not necessary.
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