Apparently I have evil gnomes stealing the bear out of my primary...

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I racked by Scottish Ale to secondary and it only came up to the 4 gal line on my ale pail. I doubt i lost a gallon to evaporation while boiling, and I was careful enough when measuring the water that theres no way i forgot an entire gallon of water. I filter the water then pour it to a corresponding line on my pot that I established (and clearly marked) in the past as the correct waterline. I know the lines on the ale pails are not exact but i shouldn't be this far off, and i haven't been drinking enough to misread the scale on the ale pail (yet). This should result in a heavier, stronger beer right?

But apparently i've been drinking enough to type bear instead of beer in the title ><

Can a Mod fix this and make me look less retarded pls
 
Do you want to end up with more beer? Don't bother with a secondary. Hang out on HBT a while and you will see most of us just leave it in the primary for three or four weeks. Every time you transfer beer you loose some. Just be lazy like the rest of us.
 
That's 'cause you don't have beer fairies to protect you.

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I'm lucky, mine are hot....:D

You really need to make sure to leave a bottle capful of wort for them, as tribute. You do that and they will keep the beergnomes at bay.

If you don't, THIS is what ends up hanging out in your beer closet.

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They might be good gnomes--the one time I had a bear in my primary, he drank all my beer.

I always lose a bit to trub, but a gallon is too much. Did you have a lot of blowoff? I'm inclined to think one of the measurements was off (the ale pail markings aren't always exactly accurate, either).
 
I racked by Scottish Ale to secondary and it only came up to the 4 gal line on my ale pail. I doubt i lost a gallon to evaporation while boiling, and I was careful enough when measuring the water that theres no way i forgot an entire gallon of water. I filter the water then pour it to a corresponding line on my pot that I established (and clearly marked) in the past as the correct waterline. I know the lines on the ale pails are not exact but i shouldn't be this far off, and i haven't been drinking enough to misread the scale on the ale pail (yet). This should result in a heavier, stronger beer right?

But apparently i've been drinking enough to type bear instead of beer in the title ><

Can a Mod fix this and make me look less retarded pls

:p Haha.
 
I'm a little confused. How much liquid did you start your boil with? How much went into the primary? One gallon per hour is a pretty standard boil-off rate. Or are you saying that you lost a gallon during the primary fermentation? And regardless of where the gallon was lost, you are correct that it will result in a heavier, stronger beer.
 
Before brewing today, i finally remembered to put the 5 gallons pre boil into the fermenting bucket to verify the marks on the side... as we have always ended up closer to 4 gallons than to 5 on our batches...

Guess what? The marks were over 1" off. We were starting 1/2 gallon off, and with normal losses, it explains our issue.

So, I would suggest to check that on your primary to make sure your marks are close or not.
 
In the late 1300's, bear stealing was considered punishable by death.
Gnomes caught stealing bears were typically stoned to death or simply crushed under a heavy boot.......which begs the question.......

HOW THE F()CK DOES A GNOME STEAL A FREAKING BEAR???

Even a baby bear is 15 times the size of your average gnome......resourceful little buggars.
 
In the late 1300's, bear stealing was considered punishable by death.
Gnomes caught stealing bears were typically stoned to death or simply crushed under a heavy boot.......which begs the question.......

HOW THE F()CK DOES A GNOME STEAL A FREAKING BEAR???

Even a baby bear is 15 times the size of your average gnome......resourceful little buggars.

They ride them, just like they ride the bunnies.

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If we clear this problem up, I have a more fundamental issue. I can't seem to get my bear into the primary in the first place. Gnomes show up and are pissed there's nothing to steal.
 
If we clear this problem up, I have a more fundamental issue. I can't seem to get my bear into the primary in the first place. Gnomes show up and are pissed there's nothing to steal.


The OP makes some ginormous batches.
 
OP: why are bears involved with your beer making process anyways?? don't you know they are prolific drinkers ??

HOW THE F()CK DOES A GNOME STEAL A FREAKING BEAR???

Even a baby bear is 15 times the size of your average gnome......resourceful little buggars.

ants can lift 10 times there own body mass, perhaps gnomes (not the garden variety) can lift 20 or more times there mass ?????
 
I racked by Scottish Ale to secondary and it only came up to the 4 gal line on my ale pail. I doubt i lost a gallon to evaporation while boiling, and I was careful enough when measuring the water that theres no way i forgot an entire gallon of water. I filter the water then pour it to a corresponding line on my pot that I established (and clearly marked) in the past as the correct waterline. I know the lines on the ale pails are not exact but i shouldn't be this far off, and i haven't been drinking enough to misread the scale on the ale pail (yet). This should result in a heavier, stronger beer right?


OK, I'll do it...

You need to start the boil with 6.5-7 gallons of wort in your kettle if you want to actually end up with 5 gallons of finished beer when all is said and done (on the high er end if you secondary your beer). It's helpful if you formulate your recipes for 6 gallons. It's better to end up with extra, than not enough.

I start my boil with ~14-14.5 gallons to end up with 10 gallons of finished beer. I shoot to end up with 12 gallons of wort after the boil. I lose some in my kettle, some in my hoses and some in my fermenter (you also lose 4% of the post boil volume during the chilling process). After all that I usually end up with almost exactly 10 gallons going to the kegs.


BTW, the beer will only be stronger if the losses are from the boil. If you lost the beer in transfers it doesn't affect how strong it is (and, yes, you should plan on boiling off about a gallon an hour).
 
OK, I'll do it...

You need to start the boil with 6.5-7 gallons of wort in your kettle if you want to actually end up with 5 gallons of finished beer when all is said and done (on the high er end if you secondary your beer). It's helpful if you formulate your recipes for 6 gallons. It's better to end up with extra, than not enough.

I start my boil with ~14-14.5 gallons to end up with 10 gallons of finished beer. I shoot to end up with 12 gallons of wort after the boil. I lose some in my kettle, some in my hoses and some in my fermenter (you also lose 4% of the post boil volume during the chilling process). After all that I usually end up with almost exactly 10 gallons going to the kegs.


BTW, the beer will only be stronger if the losses are from the boil. If you lost the beer in transfers it doesn't affect how strong it is (and, yes, you should plan on boiling off about a gallon an hour).

:off: If you don't mind, try not de-railing this thread.:drunk:

If we clear this problem up, I have a more fundamental issue. I can't seem to get my bear into the primary in the first place. Gnomes show up and are pissed there's nothing to steal.

Good Question HSB, you have to start with bear embryos and fertilize them in your primary.

These bears grow a little strangely in the wort, you have to make sure they don't drown.

These wort bears, or "Hydro-bears" as we brewers call them, tend to drink some of the beer and you can expect to lose a gallon or more that is "absorbed" by the bears.

HOPE THAT HELPS!
 
how do you get bears into your primary, I haven't seen one that small?

Ummmm. See BELOW

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Good Question HSB, you have to start with bear embryos and fertilize them in your primary.

These bears grow a little strangely in the wort, you have to make sure they don't drown.

These wort bears, or "Hydro-bears" as we brewers call them, tend to drink some of the beer and you can expect to lose a gallon or more that is "absorbed" by the bears.

HOPE THAT HELPS!
 
don't forget that in addition to the beer the bear drinks, you'll also lose some beer via absorption by bear hair.

Gross! I always shave the bear first. The hair makes great stuffing for dog beds and the exercise is good for me.

OP - Not many people get a awesome thread going in their first 100 posts.
 
Gross! I always shave the bear first. The hair makes great stuffing for dog beds and the exercise is good for me.

OP - Not many people get a awesome thread going in their first 100 posts.

Lol!

I don't know revvy, but my sister was once bitten by a beer. It is no joking matter.
 
You guys sound like a buddy of mine.

Sittin around his camper (since he got kicked outta the house), eatin' cheetos, drinkin homebrew,watchin' porn..................& wonderin' why his pee pee's turnin' orange.

:drunk:
 
Good Question HSB, you have to start with bear embryos and fertilize them in your primary.

These bears grow a little strangely in the wort, you have to make sure they don't drown.

These wort bears, or "Hydro-bears" as we brewers call them, tend to drink some of the beer and you can expect to lose a gallon or more that is "absorbed" by the bears.

HOPE THAT HELPS!

Ummm - an embryo doesn't need fertilizing again. ;)

Now, if you start with a bear egg, then you will need bear semen. I find the gnomes help in obtaining that. :drunk:
 
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