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Old 07-18-2010, 11:10 PM   #1
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Hello all, after a lot of lurking and watching my brother begin homebrewing, I've joined up.

I just ordered most of my equipement from Northern Brewer, including a Wort Chiller with 3/8th copper and garden hose adaptors.

I live in south florida with a well for water supply, so my water comes out of the tap often "warm" (I'd guess in the 80's)

I'm considering using a "closed" water chiller system; a igloo cooler filled with ice and water, a submersible pump in it, a hose from the pump to the wort chiller in the hot wort, and a return hose from the wort chiller to the igloo cooler.

My question is:
1. Risk forcing too much water through the chiller with this:
Little Giant Submersible Sump Pump

or

2. Risk melting an aquarium pump like this:
Little Giant Aquarium Pump

Any input is appreciated,
Thanks,
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Old 07-18-2010, 11:53 PM   #2
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I have a pump with the same specs as #1 and it works well. I got it at lowes on clearance for around $30.



 
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Old 07-19-2010, 12:41 AM   #3
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Regardless of what pump you get, you will want to use tap water to remove the bulk of the heat. Switch over to recirculating ice water after you've knocked the first 100F or so out.
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Old 07-19-2010, 01:04 AM   #4
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Regardless of what pump you get, you will want to use tap water to remove the bulk of the heat. Switch over to recirculating ice water after you've knocked the first 100F or so out.
I agree!
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Old 07-19-2010, 01:15 AM   #5
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You can get an aquarium sump pump that would work for $20-30. Just go to a good aquarium store and tell them what you need to do. This is what I did and I met two homebrewers that worked there.

Just make sure you go to an aquarium store and not a regular pet store.

 
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Old 07-19-2010, 01:24 AM   #6
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The Link to the aquarium pump took me to the home page of Sears, so I am not sure what that was. I am assuming it is a small fish tank pump.

I think #1 is a bit extreme for what you want. I went to Home Depot and got three small submersible pumps, like what would go in those water fountains, for $30.00 each and used one for that use. The other two went to fermentation temperature control for both ales and lagers as described in the Basic Brewing video "Low Tech Lagering and Decoction Mashing", which has worked extremely well by the way. To do what you are wanting to do a table top water fountain pump would work fine. I use mine with just a foam block cooler and swap water for ice water as I chill.
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Old 07-19-2010, 01:47 AM   #7
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Here is what I use and it works great, and it's on sale

pump


and here is where you could find it, call them first sometimes out of stock took me a couple of weeks to get one.

SARASOTA FL #144
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Old 07-19-2010, 04:58 AM   #8
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That is exactly what you're looking for there.
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Regardless of what pump you get, you will want to use tap water to remove the bulk of the heat. Switch over to recirculating ice water after you've knocked the first 100F or so out.
what if you didn't recirculate? I was thinking of this last night. what if he ( I ) put the pump in a big bucket of ice water and drop in a garden hose. run the water through the chiller but let it empty into the yard ( or sink if inside) but keep the bucket full by running fresh water into it from the hose. That way you aren't running the hot return water into your ice. Wouldn't that cut the chiling time significantly?
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what if you didn't recirculate? I was thinking of this last night. what if he ( I ) put the pump in a big bucket of ice water and drop in a garden hose. run the water through the chiller but let it empty into the yard ( or sink if inside) but keep the bucket full by running fresh water into it from the hose. That way you aren't running the hot return water into your ice. Wouldn't that cut the chiling time significantly?
Well, down here in SC, the ground water is 80F, so his might be just as warm - or warmer, and that will melt his ice pretty fast too, although not as fast as returning hot water...

I use 944play's method - chill with ground water first - knock that 212F down, without using up my ice resources, then switch over.



 
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