Coldbreak Brewing Giveaway - Open to All!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > General Beer Discussion > didn't carbonate
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-18-2010, 07:39 PM   #1
Pschof
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 110
Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts

Default didn't carbonate

2 and 1/2 months in the bottle. 11% abv, dark brown beer. tastes great. Not a hint of carbonation.

Is it likely that the yeast died? It was only in secondary for 6 weeks.

What should I do? Anyone ever open them up and add more yeast?


Pschof is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2010, 07:42 PM   #2
rico567
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Central IL
Posts: 3,019
Liked 85 Times on 79 Posts
Likes Given: 21

Default

I've got a Scottish 80/- that's been in the bottle that long, it was only in the primary three weeks, no secondary, and I KNOW I put priming sugar in. I've got a tiny bit of carbonation, but not much.


__________________
“Malt does more than Milton can / To justify God’s ways to man”

-A. E. Housman (1859–1936). A Shropshire Lad , 1896.
rico567 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2010, 11:12 PM   #3
Teromous
Beer Gnome
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Teromous's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 2,857
Liked 509 Times on 274 Posts
Likes Given: 59

Default

Could be ABV is too high for that strain of yeast. If that's the case you could add stronger yeast. The alternative is that you can be patient and wait even longer, or...

...you could start kegging...
Teromous is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2010, 11:50 PM   #4
SumnerH
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Alexandria, VA, USA
Posts: 2,058
Liked 26 Times on 23 Posts
Likes Given: 5

Default

Stupid question, but did you add priming sugar at bottling time? How much? What process did you use to ensure it was well mixed?

(I almost hate to ask, but you wouldn't be the first person who forgot the sugar at some point...)

What temperature is it at? My Belgian took 6 weeks to carb at 75F. My 11.8% barleywine is over 2 months and is just barely starting to carb at 68F.
__________________
On deck: Little Bo Pils, Bretta Off Dead (Brett pale)
Secondary: Oude Bruin, Red Sky at Morning (Sour brown ale)
On tap: Saison Duphunk (sour), Amarillo Slim (IPA), Earl White (ginger/bergamot wit)
Bottled: Number 8 (Belgian Strong Dark Ale), Eternale (Barleywine), Ancho Villa (Ancho/pasilla/chocolate/cinnamon RIS), Oak smoked porter (1/2 maple bourbon oaked, 1/2 apple brandy oaked)
SumnerH is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2010, 12:02 AM   #5
Pschof
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 110
Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts

Default

I used priming sugar-- same amount and same process I've used for 20+ other beers. It's been at around 70 degrees since may 6. I know I am just supposed to wait forever. But it would suck to wait forever and still not get the beer. Oh, well.
Pschof is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2010, 12:05 AM   #6
Yooper
Ale's What Cures You!
HBT_ADMIN.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Yooper's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: UP of Michigan
Posts: 65,125
Liked 5937 Times on 4232 Posts
Likes Given: 1515

Default

What kind of yeast did you use? At 11%, you may be over several yeast strains' alcohol tolerance.
__________________
Broken Leg Brewery
Giving beer a leg to stand on since 2006

Follow me on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lorena.t.evans
But I'm pretty boring so don't expect much!
https://www.facebook.com/lorena.t.evans
Yooper is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2010, 12:20 AM   #7
Pschof
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 110
Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts

Default

I used wyeast 1056. It said the yeast tolerance was 10%. This beer is actually under 11 (maybe 10.5). Would that be enough to kill it? I thought going a little above its tolerance risked off tastes, but not killing it.
Pschof is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2010, 12:48 AM   #8
Yooper
Ale's What Cures You!
HBT_ADMIN.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Yooper's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: UP of Michigan
Posts: 65,125
Liked 5937 Times on 4232 Posts
Likes Given: 1515

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pschof View Post
I used wyeast 1056. It said the yeast tolerance was 10%. This beer is actually under 11 (maybe 10.5). Would that be enough to kill it? I thought going a little above its tolerance risked off tastes, but not killing it.
Well, if it's over it's alcohol tolerance, it's not "dead" but just can't go any higher. Pushing it a bit higher than it is supposed to be able to go won't give it off-flavors, but it means that when you add sugar to ask it to ferment more it just can't.
__________________
Broken Leg Brewery
Giving beer a leg to stand on since 2006

Follow me on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lorena.t.evans
But I'm pretty boring so don't expect much!
https://www.facebook.com/lorena.t.evans
Yooper is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2010, 12:49 AM   #9
Pschof
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 110
Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts

Default

oh, so that's my problem, then, huh? I need to get some other yeast and add it to the bottles. Dumb mistake.
Pschof is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2010, 12:51 AM   #10
Yooper
Ale's What Cures You!
HBT_ADMIN.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Yooper's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: UP of Michigan
Posts: 65,125
Liked 5937 Times on 4232 Posts
Likes Given: 1515

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pschof View Post
oh, so that's my problem, then, huh? I need to get some other yeast and add it to the bottles. Dumb mistake.
Not a dumb mistake at all! It happens all the time.


__________________
Broken Leg Brewery
Giving beer a leg to stand on since 2006

Follow me on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lorena.t.evans
But I'm pretty boring so don't expect much!
https://www.facebook.com/lorena.t.evans
Yooper is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Longest it has taken to carbonate? Pschof General Beer Discussion 11 06-07-2010 02:51 PM
Sugar to carbonate RobWalker General Beer Discussion 2 02-06-2010 05:13 PM
You don't carbonate in a growler right? MikeRobrew General Beer Discussion 5 01-08-2009 02:25 PM
Bulk aging, to carbonate or not? wildwest450 General Beer Discussion 3 12-03-2008 07:51 PM
Apfelwein......to carbonate or not? onejdn General Beer Discussion 13 11-12-2008 04:33 PM


Forum Jump

Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS