Are you a certified beer judge? - Page 2 - Home Brew Forums

Register Now!
Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > General Beer Discussion > Are you a certified beer judge?

View Poll Results: You a certified beer judge?
Yup 5 4.81%
Nope, but have some training 6 5.77%
Nope 71 68.27%
Nope, but Ralph is... 22 21.15%
Voters: 104. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-29-2006, 04:18 PM   #11
DesertBrew
Dirty blonde
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
DesertBrew's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Jan 2005
Twin Cities, MN
Posts: 5,746
Liked 114 Times on 100 Posts


I don't know any personally but would assume them to be beer snobs. Or at least have that tendency in them. Critical buggers they are just like wine snobs .

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2006, 06:02 PM   #12
david_42
 
david_42's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Oct 2005
Willamina & Oak Grove, Oregon, USA
Posts: 25,593
Liked 151 Times on 142 Posts


desertbrew hit is squarely. Too many of the judges can judge against a style sheet, but have no idea what makes a beer good. Take away their style guide & they are clueless. On the other hand, they are a perfect match for people obsessed with winning ribbons.

The guides put out by the Brewers Association and BJCP are radically different in their focus.
__________________
Remember one unassailable statistic, as explained by the late, great George Carlin: "Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!"

"I would like to die on Mars, just not on impact." Elon Musk


 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2006, 09:46 PM   #13
Bernie Brewer
Grouchy Old Fart
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
Bernie Brewer's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Feb 2006
Eldorado, WI
Posts: 7,507
Liked 147 Times on 58 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by desertBrew
I don't know any personally but would assume them to be beer snobs. Or at least have that tendency in them. Critical buggers they are just like wine snobs .
Quote:
Originally Posted by david_42
Nope and the more certified judges I meet, the less I respect the concept
.


I agree completely. I can't begin to describe how much I loathe the idea of beer judging and competitions. I mean, who died and made (insert judges name here) the authority? I brew for me and my friends. If I don't like how a particular brew turned out, I don't brew it again. If my friends don't, I let them try something else or give them BMC. Competitions are completely subjective and nothing but popularity contests and you can keep them.
__________________
I like to squeeze the nickle until the buffalo craps-mt rob

"Why don't we get drunk and screw?" Jimmy Buffett

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2006, 06:28 PM   #14
wild
Recipes 
 
Jun 2005
Surprise, AZ.
Posts: 1,488
Liked 5 Times on 4 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by ablrbrau
who died and made (insert judges name here) the authority?
The same people who painstakingly separates 3 whole 12-ounce bottles from their personal stash, dreamed of having a third arm while trying to properly fill bottles with a bottle filler from hell, and all those that shell out $3-$5 per bottle for each category. Who better to deserve a fellow brewer that has taken the time to study the guide, earn points over a period of months or even years, and to pass a 4-hour test (3 hours written) to judge that beer?

Wild
__________________
On Tap -
  1. 3 year old Oak Aged Bourbon Porter
  2. Irish Red Rye
  3. Robust Porter
  4. Russian Imperial Stout
  5. Mirror Pond Clone dry hopped with Citra
  6. Mirror Pond Clone dry hopped with Centennial
Primary - Nada
Secondary -
From man's sweat and God's love, beer came into the world. -- Saint Arnoldus

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2006, 08:15 PM   #15
david_42
 
david_42's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Oct 2005
Willamina & Oak Grove, Oregon, USA
Posts: 25,593
Liked 151 Times on 142 Posts


BA style guide

"Each style description is purposefully written independently of any reference to another beer style. Furthermore, as much as it is possible, beer character is not described in terms of ingredients or process. These guidelines attempt to emphasize final evaluation of the product and try not to judge or regulate the formulation or manner in which it was brewed, except in special circumstances that clearly define a style."
__________________
Remember one unassailable statistic, as explained by the late, great George Carlin: "Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!"

"I would like to die on Mars, just not on impact." Elon Musk

 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2007, 07:29 AM   #16
wild
Recipes 
 
Jun 2005
Surprise, AZ.
Posts: 1,488
Liked 5 Times on 4 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by beer4breakfast
I'm not that good with riddles. Could you possibly simplify that and say it more plainly?
It was asked by ablrbrau:
who died and made (insert judges name here) the authority?

My reply was simply:
Anyone that has sent their beers to a competition.
People, who have taken the time to study, earn points, and take the BJCP exam shouldn't be besmirched especially by people who only assume that they’d be a snob. Besides, around here, how would anyone notice?


Wild
__________________
On Tap -
  1. 3 year old Oak Aged Bourbon Porter
  2. Irish Red Rye
  3. Robust Porter
  4. Russian Imperial Stout
  5. Mirror Pond Clone dry hopped with Citra
  6. Mirror Pond Clone dry hopped with Centennial
Primary - Nada
Secondary -
From man's sweat and God's love, beer came into the world. -- Saint Arnoldus

 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2007, 02:22 PM   #17
Evan!
 
Evan!'s Avatar
Recipes 
 
Aug 2006
Charlottesville, VA
Posts: 11,863
Liked 87 Times on 72 Posts


Rightie-o. Nobody is forcing anyone to enter comps. One could say the same bloody thing about Miss USA judges. "Who died and made them the authority on beauty!?" Nobody did, but in the realm of this particular voluntary competition which nobody is forced against their will to enter into, they have been deemed the authority by those who voluntarily formed and/or manage that particular competition system.

Such animus...but nobody is forcing anyone to enter. Don't like how it's run? Don't like the guidelines? Don't like that it's based on a style cheat-sheet? Then either start your own competition and run it the way you want to, or get over it.
__________________
MOSS HOLLOW BREWING CO.
Aristocratic Ales, Lascivious Lagers


.planned:
•Scottish 80/- •Sweet Stout •Roggenbier
.primary | bright:
98: Moss Hollow Soured '09 72: Oude Kriek 99: B-Weisse 102: Brett'd BDSA 104: Feat of Strength Helles Bock 105: Merkin Brown
.on tap | kegged:
XX: Moss Hollow Springs Sparkling Water 95: Gott Mit Uns German Pils 91b: Brown Willie's Oaked Abbey Ale 103: Merkin Stout
98: Yorkshire Special 100: Maple Porter 89: Cidre Saison 101: Steffiweizen '09 (#3)

 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2008, 04:58 PM   #18
fightguy
Recipes 
 
Jul 2007
Mesa, Arizona
Posts: 179
Liked 4 Times on 3 Posts


I just attended my first BJCP class last night and it was pretty fun. If nothing else, I will gain an in depth understanding of each of the styles of beer and hopefully learn how to make better beer myself.

Why all the hate on BJCP?
__________________
The best Mixed Martial Arts discussion on the net

www.bloodyknux.com

 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2008, 05:21 PM   #19
ScubaSteve
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
 
ScubaSteve's Avatar
Recipes 
 
May 2007
New Bern, NC
Posts: 3,677
Liked 83 Times on 57 Posts


They get a lot of bad press because some of them are not very articulate as to exactly WHY they like or dislike a beer....that, just like their palate, is a skill that needs to be refined. Plus people take their homebrew personally, and can't take criticism.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2008, 05:23 PM   #20
Desert_Sky
 
Desert_Sky's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Mar 2006
Sierra Vista, AZ
Posts: 4,077
Liked 53 Times on 41 Posts


if the competition is being held at my house, then you bet your ass I am

 
Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Beer Judge Certification Program? starrfish General Beer Discussion 25 07-23-2012 05:28 PM
NIST Certified Thermometers Stevorino Equipment/Sanitation 3 05-16-2008 05:43 PM
What Temp To Judge Beer ? M&M Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 2 12-04-2007 10:30 PM
Beer Judge Raffie General Techniques 4 05-16-2007 03:53 PM
First beer....too new to judge? uwmgdman Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 11 03-28-2006 01:43 AM


Forum Jump