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Old 12-27-2006, 06:32 PM   #1
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Default Pitching on the cake - dark to light

I am brewing a porter right now (it is in primary), could I pitch a pale ale onto the cake or is it bad to go from dark to light?

Tap #1: Cucumber Honey Wheat Ale
Tap #2: Rye Ale
Primary #1: empty
Primary #2: empty
On Deck: Wit
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Old 12-27-2006, 06:40 PM   #2
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I've always heard that it's a bad idea. You could wash it and get better results

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Old 12-27-2006, 07:20 PM   #3
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I've done it with no ill effects. Either try and siphon as much liquid as possible out of the carboy (tilt). If it still looks a bit dark; toss some water in there; like a 1/2g swirl it around, let it sit 15m and siphon that out.

If you've never threw a batch onto a yeast cake, the next batch isn't going to be in there long. Maybe 36hr at the most. Blowoff is highly likely.
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Old 12-30-2006, 06:45 AM   #4
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I just saved the yeast off of my Fat Ass Tired. I had a near boil over, and a good hot break. So my trub finally was two colored, dark below (hops?) and a whiter layer above. I swirled the left over beer that I had left in the carboy gently and it seemed to dissolve the yeast pretty good, leaving the hops sludge. Then I poured the liquid into a beer bottle and capped it. I think I got more yeast and less flavor than I usually do. This will be the 4th time I use this yeast. Originally Cal V liquid. Flat assed tired, Brown Rye, Flat Assed tired, probably F.A.T. again next time. I do make a starter when I use the bottled stuff. Not if I have a frsh batch starting, then I pour the yeast from one carboy to the next, leaving most of the trub behind.

Since one cup of sludge is adequite for re-pitching, I think trying to swirl the yeast off the top of the hops, and using only 8-12 oz in a 640oz batch won't transfer much of the dark flavors to a light batch.
So far, I've had more experience thinking than I've had brewing....you don't think they are mutually exclusive, do you?

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