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Old 06-17-2010, 06:36 PM   #1
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I see some information that says that IPAs are 'best' after months of storage.

Other info says they are best enjoyed young when the flavor, bitterness and aroma havent subsided

I think I am leaning towards 'young' but I am wondering why so many books etc say they are "at there best" after 3,4 or 5 months?


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American IPA = Drink Young (not aged to where they loose hop flavor and aroma)

English IPA = Age


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I tend to agree. But why do I see in the books I read (most recently Brewing Classic Styles, Radical Brewing) they often say they are best aged for many months.

That is why I am asking.
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Brew IPA. Drink some young. Drink some later. Decide what you like better.

I'm sure some prefer theres aged, so its a more rounded mild beer. I prefer the big aromas and flavors of a young IPA.
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I prefer to keg age them a bit and then add the dry hops a few days before serving. Best of both worlds IMO>
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Guys, thanks for all the answers.

However, none of them answered the question other than mezak.

I totally agree with the responses. To drink it how you like it.

However the question remains:

Why would you brew and Am. IPA with big hop flavor aroma and bitterness. Then age it so it all goes away? I do not understand the logic. Why not just brew a milder IPA and drink it?

American IPAs are supposed to have the bright hop aroma (young) and that fresh hop taste (young) and the bitterness (varying degrees - but not need to age to get your bitterness reduced - just brew it that way to start).

Am I making sense with my question?
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I think that most beers are beter a mid age, about 2 month is great because some of young esters mellows and refines. And I think your right about the bitterness, it will reduce slowly but you have to plan it when you target IBU.
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Guys, thanks for all the answers.

However, none of them answered the question other than mezak.

I totally agree with the responses. To drink it how you like it.

However the question remains:

Why would you brew and Am. IPA with big hop flavor aroma and bitterness. Then age it so it all goes away? I do not understand the logic. Why not just brew a milder IPA and drink it?

American IPAs are supposed to have the bright hop aroma (young) and that fresh hop taste (young) and the bitterness (varying degrees - but not need to age to get your bitterness reduced - just brew it that way to start).

Am I making sense with my question?
I'm no expert, but while aging will reduce the hop aroma's and hop flavors and bring out the malts more, I also think that the aging process will help develop other flavors and increase the complexity of the beer. Now it may be possible to brew a milder ale and age it, but it might not age the same as it has less hop flavor to begin with, so with age I would expect a milder ale to be far maltier than an aged IPA. The milder ale may taste like an aged IPA, but somehow I doubt that one.

If you are really looking for an answer. Brew up an IPA, bottle it and let it age. While the IPA's aging, brew another beer, following the same recipe, only cut back the hops(use the same hops, just less of them) to the levels of a milder ale. Then crack open a bottle of the age IPA and the young mild and check it out. Without some sort of test like this, all you are going to continue to get is others opinion on the matter. Though maybe someone who has actually tested this could chime in too???
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a younger milder beer won't be the same as an aged stronger beer, IMO
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Why would you brew and Am. IPA with big hop flavor aroma and bitterness. Then age it so it all goes away? I do not understand the logic. Why not just brew a milder IPA and drink it?
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