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Old 05-30-2010, 02:05 AM   #1
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Need some help here. Why cant we put electric elements right in the the MLT? If we used a 3000w/220v element at 110vac it wouldn't scorch anything right?
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Old 05-30-2010, 02:20 AM   #2
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If you are constantly stirring the mash, maybe it would be fine... but unless you keep that grist next to the element moving, it is just going to get really hot around the element. Think of your grist as insulation, you need to keep it mixing during this process.

 
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Old 05-30-2010, 02:48 AM   #3
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If you are constantly stirring the mash, maybe it would be fine... but unless you keep that grist next to the element moving, it is just going to get really hot around the element. Think of your grist as insulation, you need to keep it mixing during this process.
So, recirculating would be ok?
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Old 05-30-2010, 02:57 AM   #4
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This why people use RIMS tubes. Grain constantly on the element would most likely scorch that grain or burn up the element. Give it a shot. You could start a revolution.
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So, recirculating would be ok?
I dont know... I dont think so. I dont think that is ennough movement. Then again, I know nothing

 
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Old 05-30-2010, 04:09 AM   #6
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This why people use RIMS tubes. Grain constantly on the element would most likely scorch that grain or burn up the element. Give it a shot. You could start a revolution.
Really? or are you trying to get me to smoke an element?
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Really? or are you trying to get me to smoke an element?
You wont know til you try...

 
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Old 05-30-2010, 11:54 AM   #8
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Just begin stirring as soon as you hear it start to sizzle, should be 3-5 seconds IME. Even at a low wattage, without any movement at the element, it would likely locally overheat the mash adjacent to the element.


 
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Old 05-30-2010, 03:00 PM   #9
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This idea is perfectly fine, and is tried and true. What you need to do though is find a way to place the element BELOW the false bottom, and constantly recirculate. This will work the same as RIMS, and will not scorch as long as you keep the liquid moving back to the top of the mash. The hard part is getting the element fit below the bottom. RIMS is just an easier arrangement. It would NOT be a good idea to place the element in the mash itself in contact with the grain. The grain will not move around, and will indeed scorch on the element.
This is also how people use a direct-fire mash now, except a burner is typically used rather than an element.
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Old 05-31-2010, 01:38 PM   #10
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This is also how people use a direct-fire mash now, except a burner is typically used rather than an element.
You guys have convinced me that an element in the mash is bad

How would a direct-fire with control work? You would need a solenoid and an igniter right?
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