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Old 04-29-2010, 12:03 PM   #1
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Okay, so I'm a bit torn here and figured I'd ask for help with my specific situation.
I got a wheat beer extract kit I'm gonna cook up tomorrow and I'm using a Wyeast 3068 activator pack.
My O.G. should be 49 for this 5 gallon batch according to the kit directions.(It's a Northern Brewer Bav. Hefe kit.)

Okay, so now for my query.
I have the above mentioned smack-pack and a pound of amber dme. Now normally I'd do a starter and pitch at high krausen like normal, but I have never done a wheat beer and was concerned that the amber dme (all I have right now) might cause the flavor of the beer to change.
What do you guys (and gals) think?

 
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:19 PM   #2
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I'm far from an expert, with only 12 brewing sessions under my belt, but here's what I would do. Rather than risk some off flavors from the Amber DME, I'd smack the pack and see how fast it pops up. I've had some smack packs that are fully expanded within 2 hours, and I've had some that got a little more than half way expanded after 24 hours. So, if I had a pack that took off fast, I'd just pitch it. If I had a pack that was very slow, I'd use the Amber to make a starter. But then I'd chill the starter for 24 hours, and then decant as much of the liquid off the starter and pitch just the cake.

I'm sure there's a lot more advice coming from the more experienced members. Just thought I'd share my approach.
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:22 PM   #3
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What size starter are you making? I don't know if it would change the flavor much if you pitch it. Or you could make the starter 3-4 days prior to brewing, let it finish. Then refrigerate it over night and decant most of the liquid. That is what I usually do. Make starter Wednesday for a Sunday brew. Leave it on stirplate till Saturday, put it in fridge. Take it out Sunday morning to come to room temp.

 
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:29 PM   #4
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I think a 4oz Amber DME starter @ 1.030 would not impact your brew at all.

I think the kit you mentioned (NB Bav Hefe) comes with 1 Lb of Wheat DME doesnt it? If so just use 4oz of Wheat DME and you will not have to worry about it.

 
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:38 PM   #5
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Haha you're right It DOES come with wheat DME.
I'll just do that.
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Old 04-29-2010, 02:23 PM   #6
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You don't need a starter. Just smack it, let it warm up, sanitize the pack and dump it in.


 
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Old 04-29-2010, 04:43 PM   #7
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If you do make a starter, use a big container. I blew the foil cap off my flask with that yeast. And definitely use a blowoff tube on the primary.

 
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:12 PM   #8
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If you do make a starter, use a big container. I blew the foil cap off my flask with that yeast. And definitely use a blowoff tube on the primary.

I agree I needed a 2 liter starter for the 10 gallon batch I just did, the first 1400 ml made a huge mess and this was the 600 ml step up. I tend to like underpitching Wheats to get esters from reproduction. I didn't have a blow off on the fermantor because its a 15 gallon Dulex and has a lot of head space, at high krausen it was about an inch below the top.

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Old 04-29-2010, 09:24 PM   #9
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I think 3068 is best with only a 500ml starter for 20L batch.
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Old 04-30-2010, 04:19 AM   #10
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I agree I needed a 2 liter starter for the 10 gallon batch I just did, the first 1400 ml made a huge mess and this was the 600 ml step up. I tend to like underpitching Wheats to get esters from reproduction. I didn't have a blow off on the fermantor because its a 15 gallon Dulex and has a lot of head space, at high krausen it was about an inch below the top.

This is but my 3944 starter looked the same!

 
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