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Old 04-26-2010, 02:27 AM   #1
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Finally set up the irrigation and got the soil right, I just hope the Rhizomes are still viable..I had em in the fridge for a month.

From closest to farthest
Centennial
Centennial
Cascade
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Chinook
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Old 04-26-2010, 05:19 AM   #2
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Yea, who would have thought hops in a HOP forum!

Everything I've read says these plants can have their ass kicked and they still produce. Ill have a beer and pray to the gods for you, and your hops!


 
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Old 04-26-2010, 05:53 AM   #3
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LMAO, right on man. Based on what I've read I over planted...only spaced them maybe 12" apart and I'm now seeing 36" is recommended, oh well..we'll see what comes up before I worry about that.
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KEG 4:(On Tap) Centennial Blonde
KEG 5: Creamy Bikini
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Yooper Stone Ruination IPA

 
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Old 04-26-2010, 05:45 PM   #4
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I think the biggest issue with having them close is not being able to tell which plant is which once it starts growing like crazy. But with lots and lots of trimming daily that may not be an issue?

 
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Old 04-26-2010, 05:53 PM   #5
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Yes I thought about that...trying to follow a 20 foot vine back to the soil to determine if it's Centennial or Cascade could be tedious. Oh well I'll deal with it.
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KEG 3: (ON TAP) Irish Red Ale [COLOR="Blue"]
KEG 4:(On Tap) Centennial Blonde
KEG 5: Creamy Bikini
KEG 6:

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Ed Worts Oktoberfest with Kolsh yeast Yummmy
Yooper Stone Ruination IPA

 
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Old 04-26-2010, 05:58 PM   #6
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I think the biggest issue with having them close is not being able to tell which plant is which once it starts growing like crazy. But with lots and lots of trimming daily that may not be an issue?
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Yes I thought about that...trying to follow a 20 foot vine back to the soil to determine if it's Centennial or Cascade could be tedious. Oh well I'll deal with it.
Not just that. But as the plant gets closer to flowering it'll put on sidearms. some variant have sidearms that extend 40". And they will go sideways until they can no longer defeat gravity or they latch onto anything nearby.

they are thin a frail and detangling them is extremly sensitive laborious work but, leaving them tangled can result in not knowing if your cone is Centennial or Zues (for example).

 
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Old 04-26-2010, 05:59 PM   #7
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The larger issue will come in the years ahead, when the underground shoots are intermingling; you could very well end up with a centennial popping up through your chinook (and other combinations, etc) and you would not be able to tell unless you pulled up the whole bine all the way to the root ball.

I suggest you bite the bullet now and separate, unless you don't mind a hop bouillabaise.

Just my .02



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Old 04-26-2010, 06:02 PM   #8
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I suggest you bite the bullet now and separate, unless you don't mind a hop bouillabaise.
Or, box them in with corrugated steel sheet.

Definitely a PITA and separating will be better in the long run, but boxing in the roots will mitigate the spread of the underground system.

 
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These suckers will still grow under/around underground "barricades"-- IME outside of proper spacing and pruning every 2-3 seasons, everything else is a band-aid type fix.
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Old 04-26-2010, 07:34 PM   #10
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These suckers will still grow under/around underground "barricades"-- IME outside of proper spacing and pruning every 2-3 seasons, everything else is a band-aid type fix.
True. But these suckers have also been "known" to emerge up to 15 foot from the crown so....

As for me, I barricade and root prune to combine a ounce of prevention with a pound of cure.

 
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