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Old 04-23-2010, 06:53 PM   #1
sirsloop
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Recipe Type: All Grain   
Yeast: Czech Budejovice Lager (White Labs #WLP802)   
Yeast Starter: 2L   
Batch Size (Gallons): 5.5   
Original Gravity: 1.092   
Final Gravity: 1.022   
IBU: 62.4   
Boiling Time (Minutes): 90   
Color: 6   
Primary Fermentation (# of Days & Temp): 14   
Secondary Fermentation (# of Days & Temp): 90   
Tasting Notes: AMAZING.   

Just racked an Imperial Pils into a cornie... man... it tasted sooooo damn good. I didn't really think I would enjoy this beer all that much, but I gotta say its damn good. So well balanced, full bodied, aromatic, smooth... man... its beautiful!! I'm def making another one of these!!! Flat right outta the primary is was ridiculously delicious.

69 - Imperial Pils
German Pilsner (Pils)
Type: All Grain Date: 3/9/2010
Batch Size: 5.50 gal Brewer: JD
Boil Size: 7.30 gal
Boil Time: 90 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00

Ingredients
20.00 lb Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 95.24 %
1.00 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 4.76 %
1.75 oz Sterling [6.00 %] (75 min) Hops 28.2 IBU
1.75 oz Sterling [6.00 %] (30 min) Hops 20.8 IBU
1.75 oz Sterling [6.00 %] (15 min) Hops 13.4 IBU
1.75 oz Sterling [6.00 %] (0 min) Hops -
1.00 items Servomyces Yeast Nutrient (Boil 15.0 min)
1.00 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min)
2L Czech Budejovice Lager (White Labs #WLP802)

Beer Profile
Est Original Gravity: 1.092 SG Measured Original Gravity: 1.092 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.019 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.022 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 9.53%
Actual Alcohol by Vol: 9.17 %
Bitterness: 62.4 IBU Calories: 418 cal/pint
Est Color: 6.0 SRM

Mash Profile
Single Infusion, Light Body, Batch Sparge
Mash In: Add 21.00 qt of water at 164.2 F
75 min - Hold mash at 150.0 F for 75 min
-- Batch Sparge Round 1: Sparge with 1.05 gal of 168.0 F water.
-- Batch Sparge Round 2: Sparge with 3.78 gal of 168.0 F water.
-- Add water to achieve boil volume of 7.30 gal
-- Estimated Pre-boil Gravity is: 1.072 SG with all grains/extracts added

Fermented at 52F for 14 days
Rested at 62F for 3 days
Lager at 35F - until time to serve (3-6mo?)

Carbonation Type: Kegged (Forced CO2)
Volumes of CO2: 2.4
Pressure/Weight: 21.6 PSI Carbonation Used: -
Keg/Bottling Temperature: 35.0F
Age for: 90.0 days
Storage Temperature: 35.0 F


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Old 04-29-2010, 11:34 PM   #2
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I can vouch that it was ridiculously delicious and I think I got a taste the first day it was in the keg. Can't wait to see what it's like with some age on it.




 
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Old 05-17-2010, 04:52 PM   #3
HuRRiC4Ne
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this similar to that Sam Adams Imperial Pilsner?

 
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Old 05-17-2010, 05:05 PM   #4
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ehh... never had it. Its good... just make it!!
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~~~~~~~~~_/ [][]| | /```\/```\/```\/```\/```\ |~~~~~~~~~~
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~~~___/[_]| 00 /| | \,,,/\,,,/\,,,/\,,,/\,,,/ |~~~~~~~~~~
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Old 05-17-2010, 05:07 PM   #5
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Yeah, I'm leaning towards it... Want to add more hops though, I was thinking Hallertau. I'm also afraid I may hit 75ish efficiency though... Why you only hit 65%?

 
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Old 05-17-2010, 05:19 PM   #6
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Batch sparging imperial beers typically result in lower efficiency. If you fly sparge you should be able to up that a little bit. Instead of doing that I just up the grain bill and call it a day. No extra parts, pumps, etc, and its much faster than fly sparging.

I'm tellin ya man, the amount of hops is dead on... its well balanced as is. If you want an Imperial Pils IPA you can add more
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~~~~~~~~~~~___//_ ____________________________~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~_/ [][]| | /```\/```\/```\/```\/```\ |~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~_/_______| |____NOW TRIPLE HOPPED______|~~~~~~~~~~
~~~___/[_]| 00 /| | \,,,/\,,,/\,,,/\,,,/\,,,/ |~~~~~~~~~~
~~|___|___|___/_| |___________________________|~~~~~~~~~~
~~|=(*)[________]==(*)(*)=| \________/=(*)(*)=|~~~~~~~~~~

 
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Old 05-17-2010, 05:28 PM   #7
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Okay, that makes sense... I have only done one AG before I will take your suggestion on this receipe... I must admit I want to try to clone the Sam Adam's Imperial Pilsner that calls for on their website:
Their website has most of the details:

2-row Harrington & Metcalf
OG 21 P (1.088)
8.8% ABV
(which means the FG is around 1.021, ~76% AA)
Hallertau Mittelfrueh - 12 pounds per barrel (~1.9 lbs in 5 gallons, make sure to account for wort loss to the hops)
Lager Yeast

I wish someone would try to make this... Or had any idea how they did it.

 
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Old 05-17-2010, 05:56 PM   #8
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That's a wacky recipe. Is 2-row Harrington & Metcalf even a Pilsner malt? The OG is on par with mine, the AA is slightly higher, but the amount of hops is just ridiculous. I think the most I've ever put in a full blown 100+ AA 1.100+ American Imperial IPA is like 10 ounces... using THREE TIMES that amount in a 1.088 Pils is nuts.

Ahh... I see... its listed in the "EXTREME" category. This is not extreme beer...its like a super full bodied pils. If you wanna make extreme pils with insane amounts of low AA hops you can base it off my recipe. I don't know what will happen with that much hop material in a brew. I would shoot for like a 6.5 gallon batch and hope to get 5 gallons of wort. Certainly use pellet hops or you'll end up with a fermenter full of nothing but whole leaf hops. The even crazier thing is, as you get larger and larger in scale your hops become more utilized. Its not a linear ramp up from 5 gallons to 10, to 20, to 100, 200, etc. If they make a 1000 gal batch they would use MUCH less hops per barrel compared to what we would need to make only 5 gallons, ratio wise.
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~~~~~~~~~~~___//_ ____________________________~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~_/ [][]| | /```\/```\/```\/```\/```\ |~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~_/_______| |____NOW TRIPLE HOPPED______|~~~~~~~~~~
~~~___/[_]| 00 /| | \,,,/\,,,/\,,,/\,,,/\,,,/ |~~~~~~~~~~
~~|___|___|___/_| |___________________________|~~~~~~~~~~
~~|=(*)[________]==(*)(*)=| \________/=(*)(*)=|~~~~~~~~~~


 
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Old 05-17-2010, 05:59 PM   #9
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking... Your's looked pretty close, thats why I asked if you have tried it yet and how would you compare the two I'm still undecided on what I will do... I think If I do it, that I will call it a day with 16oz's...

 
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Old 05-18-2010, 05:14 PM   #10
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So how long exactly did you let this lager for? I'm looking to make this as my first lager, and it sounds great. Also this might be a dumb question, but do you rack to secondary right before the lager step?

Thanks,

Adam



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