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Old 04-23-2010, 08:08 PM   #61
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Your local extension office should have soil testing kits. Usually the tests run about $20-25. Make your own compost, you'd be amazed at the amount of organic matter you throw away that could be made into wonderful compost for your hops or garden.

I think its already been mentioned but human urine mixed with wood ash makes a fantastic fertilizer. Couple notes, be sure to store the urine for at least 24 hours (most of any remaining pathogens will be digested or die) and you may want to dilute based on what you're using it on.

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I am with you on the compost. I'll even pee on my own plants every chance I get.

But there is NO WAY IN HELL I am storing urine, anywhere, for 24+ hours unless it's collecting in my bladder.

I rather prefer to stay married thank you.

 
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Old 04-23-2010, 08:29 PM   #62
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I think its already been mentioned but human urine mixed with wood ash makes a fantastic fertilizer. Couple notes, be sure to store the urine for at least 24 hours (most of any remaining pathogens will be digested or die) and you may want to dilute based on what you're using it on.
What pathogens might that be? Urine itself is sterile, and although it may pick up some hitchhikers on the way through the urethra and on out, it is nothing your plants and soil won't handle just fine.

+1 Gila's comment about staying married. My wife already laughs at me for peeing on the hops or tomatoes... if I started storing it I might be moving into the shed.

 
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Old 04-23-2010, 08:52 PM   #63
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man, I have a whole fireplace full of wood ash...Im gonna piss on it and feed my damn plants tonight. Maybe even have a cocktail while Im doing it. Party!
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Old 04-23-2010, 09:14 PM   #64
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What pathogens might that be? Urine itself is sterile, and although it may pick up some hitchhikers on the way through the urethra and on out, it is nothing your plants and soil won't handle just fine.

+1 Gila's comment about staying married. My wife already laughs at me for peeing on the hops or tomatoes... if I started storing it I might be moving into the shed.
I dunno my man, I thought urine was sterile as well. However, several online sources I found made a point to mention that pathogens, diseases, and other mild toxins are minimal and neutralized within 24 hours of leaving the body. They said minimal, but they were still mentioned.

 
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Old 04-23-2010, 09:26 PM   #65
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Well said, sir!
Why thank you my good man!

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I've not really seen it documented as such, but I have always assumed this to be the case. My tactics have been nitrogen-rich applications until they reach desired height and then potassium-rich feedings thereafter.

For potassium I like to use wood ash from my fireplace or outdoor firepit. Nice and cheap!
Hops do seem to continue vigorous bine growth after cone production has started, but they are so huge by that point, it may just be a gentle lengthening of the bine proportionally. A 3% increase in a 30 foot bine is still a measurable increase, whereas a 10% increase in the early growth is expected.

 
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Old 04-23-2010, 09:40 PM   #66
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There's better things for tomatoes...
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Time for me to go water the garden...
Haha, that is great. I've had good results using the human fertilizing method (along w/ organics) on my "special hops" wink, wink. It really does provide a lot of readily available nutrients, and it saves on the water bill. But to each their own, if miracle grow works, use it. I would only suggest that you cut off adding it, and leach w/ water about two weeks before harvest to flush out any built up salts/fertilizer in the plant. Good growing!

Edit: No need to store the pee, the bladder storing works just fine. I think we generate a steady enough "stream" to not store it (and that's weird). NO pathogens or other nasties have a chance of doing damage to your beloved plants, not that you should have any...especially that transfer to a plant. I have a horticulture degree and background, so, take it from me.


 
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Old 04-23-2010, 09:53 PM   #67
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I couldn't resist....the closest relative to the hop plant, is well the cannabis plant. FYI, they can be grafted, My Dad said he did it back in the day. Made good beer by the sounds of it. So similarly, High nitrogen in veggie stage, high potassium and phosphorus, and trace minerals as soon as cones appear. flush w/ h2o before harvest...yummy hops! Good day all.

 
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Old 04-23-2010, 09:58 PM   #68
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During the civil war the south used to collect urine so they could extract the nitrogen to make gun powder.


 
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Old 04-23-2010, 10:12 PM   #69
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I have to say, I am ROFL with the turn this thread has taken. I many times pissed on my trees or plants because I was working in the yard and too lazy to walk back into the house. now that I know it's good for them, I may save some water by not flushing the toilet so often.

 
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