Coldbreak Brewing Giveaway - Open to All!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Extract Brewing > Lager Primary Fermentation Temps - Help
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-01-2005, 03:00 AM   #1
Fatboy
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 46
Default Lager Primary Fermentation Temps - Help

Evening guys,

I'm getting ready to pitch yeast into my latest lager experiment, and have new temp controlled freezer at 55-60 degrees. Just had a new question - can the primary fermentation happen in the freezer at that temp - or does it need to happen at basement temperature, then to the freezer at secondary fermentation?

Thanks - Paul


Fatboy is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2005, 04:10 AM   #2
Fatboy
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 46
Default

well - did it anyway. We'll see how it turns out. At the temp in the freezer - it will be within the temps for Saflager 23. Should be just fine.

Paul


Fatboy is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2005, 04:17 AM   #3
homebrewer_99
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
homebrewer_99's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Atkinson (near the Quad Cities), IL
Posts: 17,950
Liked 100 Times on 85 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

You should have activity in the airlock at room temp prior to chilling down to lagering temp in the fridge.
__________________
HB Bill
homebrewer_99 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2005, 04:17 PM   #4
DeRoux's Broux
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
DeRoux's Broux's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Beaumont, Texas
Posts: 2,966
Liked 6 Times on 4 Posts
Likes Given: 8

Default

i do as HB99 said. but, i've read in Brew Your Own several times that you should chill the wort to as close to the ferm temp as possible, pitch yeast and get it into the fridge/freezer set to ferm temp. lag time will be longer unless the yeast was at the ferm temp when pitched into the wort. easier the other way. i see activity within a couple hours, so it's no real worry for extra or over diacetyl production in that short period of time when the temp of the wort gets to the proper ferm temp for the yeast used......
__________________
Cheers!
DeRoux's Broux
DeRoux's Broux is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2005, 07:19 PM   #5
Fatboy
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 46
Default

I pitched the Saflager 23 at 62 degrees and placed the primary in the freezer which had a temp range of 54-59 degrees. How's that sound? Should I get it back to room temp (est 65-70 degrees) tonight? - then back to the freezer at secondary?

Thanks - Paul
Fatboy is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2005, 08:00 PM   #6
DeRoux's Broux
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
DeRoux's Broux's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Beaumont, Texas
Posts: 2,966
Liked 6 Times on 4 Posts
Likes Given: 8

Default

nah, you did good. most lager "purists" would say that's the only way to do it.

what's your lager schedule?
__________________
Cheers!
DeRoux's Broux
DeRoux's Broux is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2005, 08:07 PM   #7
Fatboy
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 46
Default

3 days in primary - 1 week in secondary - I will probably transfer again if there is a bunch of sediment in the secondary. Probably won't bottle for 3-5 weeks.
Fatboy is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2005, 08:34 PM   #8
homebrewer_99
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
homebrewer_99's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Atkinson (near the Quad Cities), IL
Posts: 17,950
Liked 100 Times on 85 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

As long as you have activity it'll be fine.
__________________
HB Bill
homebrewer_99 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2005, 01:37 PM   #9
Fatboy
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 46
Default

I posted my weizen beer that turned into a clove ham marinade in another forum. How long can it sit in a secondary in this freezer (transferred a total of 2 times, nearly no sediment). It would be easier for me to age it in the carboy if that can be done.

Thanks - Paul
Fatboy is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2005, 02:00 PM   #10
DeRoux's Broux
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
DeRoux's Broux's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Beaumont, Texas
Posts: 2,966
Liked 6 Times on 4 Posts
Likes Given: 8

Default

yes, it'll be fine to lager in the secondary. a lot of people use corny kegs, and then use the co2 to jump beer from one keg to another.
here's what i do when i brew a lager:
1. 10-14 days in primary until fermentation is complete set at around 52-58 degrees (depends on yeast i use).
2. raise temp in freezer (or set out at room temp for 2-3 days) to 68-70 degrees for diacetyl rest of 2-3 days.
3. rack to secondary and set temp to about 55 degrees. after a day or two, start lowering the temp by about 2 degrees a day until you reach 30-32 degrees. allow to lager for a minimum of 4-6 weeks. bottle/keg as normal. let bottles condition at room temp for 2-4 weeks. you may need to add some dry yeast at bottling inorder for it to carbonate properly. or, you can just drag the racking cane along the bottom of the secondary when you rack to your bottling bucket. this should stir up enough yeast for carbonating your brew. i keg and force carbonate, so i skip that part.
i'm sure there are others that do it different and have some tips, but this is what myself and most in my HBC do for lager schedule. plus, my club has several gold medals for lagers, so i'm a little biased! :~)


__________________
Cheers!
DeRoux's Broux

DeRoux's Broux is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Primary Lager Fermentation Temperature Question CanuckBrewing Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 4 01-26-2014 02:16 PM
Primary Lager Temps illin8 General Techniques 7 03-31-2009 04:44 PM
fermentation temps ale vs lager docmoran All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 3 12-17-2008 01:52 AM
Lager fermentation Primary CWalters Extract Brewing 7 08-04-2008 02:36 AM
Lager fermentation temps Richard General Techniques 13 01-08-2008 01:59 AM


Forum Jump

Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS