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Old 03-31-2010, 03:27 AM   #1
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I've had an old english ale (Poor Richard's Ale to be precise) in my primary for 6 days now. The OG was 1082 and has been around 1020 for the past 2 days. Can I cold crash it for a few days then rack it into my secondary on top of some gelatin mix? Would it be best to keep it cold conditioned in the secondary or could it be at room temp. One last question, can the beer sit on top of the gelatin for the two weeks I planned on keeping it in secondary?
I kept seeing people post about cold crashing after 3 weeks, but they all seemed to go straight to bottling or kegging afterward. Thoughts, opinions?

 
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Old 03-31-2010, 10:36 AM   #2
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You don't want to rack on top of gelatin. You should get the beer cold for 24 or more hours, then add the gelatin on top of the beer. The gelatin attracts haze particles and, together, they sink to the bottom of the vessel, yielding a clear to brilliant beer. Gelatin takes about 3 to 5 days.

Cold crashing will also clear the beer, but over a longer time and may not clear chill haze.

You can start the clearing process after you are sure fermentation is complete and the yeast has had a few extra days to tidy things up.

After the gelatin has had time to clear, you can then, gently, rack to a bottling bucket or keg. Take care to not stir up the sediment that the gelatin settled out.

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Old 03-31-2010, 07:45 PM   #3
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You don't want to rack on top of gelatin.
why not? I rack on top of gelatin so it gets evenly distributed thru-out the beer. Works great. In fact I just racked on top of gelatin with 2 carboys full of Steam beer. Within 24 hours there was a TON of crap at the bottom of the 2ndaries. I question that the beer needs to be cold too. I do it at room-temp, works like a charm.

 
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Old 03-31-2010, 08:09 PM   #4
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Reason it works better when the beer has already been cold crashed is a lot has dropped out and the rest will be easier for the gelatin to remove. There is just so much that tablespoon will do .
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Old 03-31-2010, 08:18 PM   #5
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*raises hand*

so the point of racking onto gelatin in the secondary is that the gelatin binds with all the particulates in the beer, and you bypass needing to filter or be careful when bottling/etc.?

 
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Old 04-01-2010, 12:44 AM   #6
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*raises hand*

so the point of racking onto gelatin in the secondary is that the gelatin binds with all the particulates in the beer, and you bypass needing to filter or be careful when bottling/etc.?
The Gelatin will clear your beer much better than cold crashing and or being careful when bottling.I like to add it to room temp.beer, then cold crash! I have not had good luck adding it to COLD beer.It seems to gel up and drop to the bottom too fast?

 
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Old 04-01-2010, 01:31 AM   #7
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Can I still dry hop if I use Gelatin?
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Old 04-01-2010, 01:40 AM   #8
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step away from the fermentor...

a beer that big needs time...beer conditions way faster at a warmer temp (and its an ale so thats cool---figure low 60's). leave it alone for a couple weeks and then cold crash for 48hrs (to get haze) then at gelatin and wait 48 more hrs. then keg.

I wouldn't touch it at all for atleast 3 weeks (or rack to a secondary and don't touch for 2 more weeks)...you don't have to listen to me but it will taste like poo (compared to that styles potential) if you don't give it time...
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Old 04-01-2010, 01:41 AM   #9
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also...gelatin works in 24 hrs. so just add at the very end.
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Old 04-01-2010, 03:59 AM   #10
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Can I still dry hop if I use Gelatin?
I'm sure there is a better way to do it and i'm curious to hear the answer. but when i use gelatin for my dry hoped beers i use it in tertiary. So my schedule goes something like this:

2-3 weeks primary
10-14 days dry hop secondary
3-5 days tertiary

 
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