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Old 03-18-2010, 06:50 PM   #1
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Recipe Type: All Grain   
Yeast: Pacman   
Yeast Starter: 2000   
Batch Size (Gallons): 5.5   
Original Gravity: 1.053   
Final Gravity: 1.013   
IBU: 51   
Boiling Time (Minutes): 75   
Color: 15   
Primary Fermentation (# of Days & Temp): 17 @ 60F   
Secondary Fermentation (# of Days & Temp): 10 @ room   
Tasting Notes: A very clean crisp amber with great malt taste balanced with a nice hop bite   

Update: I took this to a local comp and entered it as a American Amber and scored very nicely, 38 points but the only thing bad they had to say was that it was too hoppy for the style, they usually don't expect so much hop aroma from a amber as well as the mouthfeel leaning toward the bitter. This was of course on purpose as I was shooting for a hoppy amber. I was very pleased and asked them if I entered it as a American Pale Ale, how would it have done. They said it would be about 5 points higher and that made me smile

I was able to get some input from Rogue and they responded with the following.

Cascade for bittering
Amarillo for aroma

C150 6%
C40 12%

With filling in the rest of the info from their site, I was able to come up with the following which turned out to be a fantastic beer

82% Pale 2-row
12% C40
6% C150 or special B

I went with the following hop schedule

1.75oz of cascade at the beginning of the boil for about 40 IBUs
1 oz of amarillo at 10 minutes for another 11 IBUs or so
1 oz amarillo dry hopped
1 oz simcoe dry hopped

Here is a recipe based on 83% so please adjust accordingly by the percentages above.

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Boil Size: 6.83 gal
Estimated OG: 1.053 SG
Estimated Color: 15.0 SRM
Estimated IBU: 53.6 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 83.00 %
Boil Time: 75 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
8.00 lb Great Western American Pale (3.0 SRM) Grain 82.00 %
1.17 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 12.00 %
0.59 lb Special B Malt (150.0 SRM) Grain 6.00 %
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1.75 oz Cascade [7.00 %] (75 min) Hops 42.7 IBU
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (10 min) Hops 10.8 IBU
1 Pkgs Pacman [Starter Yeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: Temperature Mash, 1 Step, Medium Body
Total Grain Weight: 9.76 lb
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Temperature Mash, 1 Step, Medium Body
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Saccharification Add 14.00 qt of water at 164.4 F 154.0 F
10 min Mash Out Heat to 168.0 F over 10 min 168.0 F


If you adjust your water, here are the numbers I used:

Ca 80 Mg 21 Na 18 SO4 150 Cl 50 HCO3 150




 
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Old 04-14-2010, 10:46 PM   #2
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This keg disappeared quickly Haven't heard back from the judging on it from regionals but should be soon.



 
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Old 05-30-2010, 03:04 PM   #3
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I'm considering an amber that uses a lot of crystal malts and yours has a lot, sitting at 18% of the grain bill. Your bitterness level appears to support that high percentage. In your opinion, if you were to reduce your hop rates, when would the crystal malts become too overwhelming?
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Old 07-06-2010, 07:13 PM   #4
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I'm considering an amber that uses a lot of crystal malts and yours has a lot, sitting at 18% of the grain bill. Your bitterness level appears to support that high percentage. In your opinion, if you were to reduce your hop rates, when would the crystal malts become too overwhelming?
well that is up to interpretation but I would say at a generic APA level 30 -35 IBUs or so but my taste buds are accustomed to hops and like a lot of them so I don't get much bitterness if any out of most APAs.

 
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Old 07-14-2010, 09:51 PM   #5
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I took the liberty of putting this recipe on hopville.com (giving credit where it's due, of course.) Had to change the yeast because LHBS didn't have it. Here's the link: http://hopville.com/recipe/285013/am...ue-amber-clone

 
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I took the liberty of putting this recipe on hopville.com (giving credit where it's due, of course.) Had to change the yeast because LHBS didn't have it. Here's the link: http://hopville.com/recipe/285013/am...ue-amber-clone
very nice and thank you, I noticed your bitterness was down a bit at 30 but you had plenty of hops. How does it taste?

 
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Old 07-14-2010, 10:13 PM   #7
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I'm actually brewing it today. You're right, the bitterness was off because the boil volume was wrong. I changed the boil volume to 10.5 gallons, and we should be all set.

 
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I'm actually brewing it today. You're right, the bitterness was off because the boil volume was wrong. I changed the boil volume to 10.5 gallons, and we should be all set.
ahh, that looks better, also were you able to get US-05 if you use US-04? That is closer to the pacman yeast, just a clean fermentation.

 
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Old 07-14-2010, 10:25 PM   #9
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Yeah I wanted 05 but they were out of that, so I figured I would give the 04 a shot. I'll put a note on the recipe about all that.

 
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Yeah I wanted 05 but they were out of that, so I figured I would give the 04 a shot. I'll put a note on the recipe about all that.
any news on how it turned out?



 
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