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Old 03-18-2010, 03:50 AM   #1
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I recently heard that when bottling in larger bottles (ie. 22oz) that your brew would take a bit longer to age. Has anyone experienced this and is there any particular reason why this would be the case?

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Old 03-18-2010, 04:11 AM   #2
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Takes longer to age whiskey in larger oak barrels, because the surface area to volume ratio goes down. Unless aging beer somehow involves the beer-glass interface, or the beer-air interface (in a good way), I don't see the size of the bottle making a difference.

To take it to an extreme, if a 22oz bottle ages notable slower than a 12oz bottle, then breweries would never be able to age 100 bbl batches.



 
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Old 03-18-2010, 04:14 AM   #3
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Do you mean "age" or "condition"? If you mean condition, I've used 22s for some of my batches with no noticeable difference in carbonation levels when compared to the same beer conditioned in 12oz bottles.
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Old 03-18-2010, 04:15 AM   #4
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Hmmmm...I'm not sure but I hear that 22oz bottles age better than 12oz bottles dealing with surface area or something..... In other words beer tastes better in 22's...Not sure but I'll do some testing once my 420 matures.
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Old 03-18-2010, 04:16 AM   #5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LordHedgie View Post
To take it to an extreme, if a 22oz bottle ages notable slower than a 12oz bottle, then breweries would never be able to age 100 bbl batches.
Agreed - that's why it was so confusing for me. I don't mind if it's the case, but I just want to know what to expect when I bottle in 22's and whether I need to wait it out a bit longer or not

Reason: put in quote for clarification

 
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Old 03-18-2010, 04:20 AM   #6
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Re-read my post and I may not have been clear. I don't think there's any way it could make a difference in conditioning time. Unless you're VERY careful in getting the O2 out of your bottles, the 22oz will expose your beer to less O2, and therefore make a better beer.

 
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Old 03-18-2010, 04:25 AM   #7
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What you are referring to is the AGING of a beer, as in long term again. Not initial conditioning.

As oxygen ingress is going to happen over the course of years, the idea is that since an upright 22oz bottle and an upright 12oz bottle have roughly the same surface area in contact with the airspace, the larger volume bottle has a larger ratio of liquid to air, thus making the effects of oxidation less noticeable.

Hope I'm making sense. I'm kind of tired.

 
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Old 03-18-2010, 02:23 PM   #8
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Gotcha - so from an AGING standpoint, 22s are a bit better since the effects of oxidation over the long haul will be smaller due to the liquid to air ratio.

For CARBONATION / CONDITIONING, no difference?

 
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Old 03-18-2010, 02:33 PM   #9
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I believe I found another post with a good discussion on the carb / conditioning aspect

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/bott...ioning-106006/



 
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