Vanilla and oak question - Home Brew Forums

Register Now!
Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Recipes/Ingredients > Vanilla and oak question

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-17-2010, 03:26 AM   #1
I_B_Mongo
 
I_B_Mongo's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Jul 2009
Kansas City, Missouri
Posts: 576
Liked 8 Times on 8 Posts



I'm getting ready to make a bourbon barrel aged vanilla imperial porter. About a week ago I split and scrapped two vanilla beans, put them in a Mason jar, and covered them with bourbon.
My plan is to brew up the imperial porter and ferment it as usual. Then I planned on letting it age in a bourbon barrel for about 3-4 weeks (depending on how much/how fast it picks up flavors from the barrel), and then adding the soaked beans. I'm afraid that if I add the beans to either the fermenter or the barrel the vanilla taste I'm shooting for will be lost.

Does this sound like a good route, or should I add the beans to primary? barrel?

Thanks!

I_B_Mongo

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2010, 11:37 AM   #2
Oldsock
 
Oldsock's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Sep 2007
DC, Washington DC
Posts: 3,231
Liked 252 Times on 167 Posts


I assume you are planning on adding the bourbon as well? After soaking for that long I would guess most of the vanilla flavor would be in the bourbon and not in the beans. Anytime after fermentation has finished should be fine, all the CO2 produced in primary can scrub subtle flavors out of the beer.
__________________
Check out The Mad Fermentationist for my adventures in fermentation and my book: American Sour Beers!

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2010, 05:16 PM   #3
Primetime
Recipes 
 
Jan 2010
Miiiiichigan
Posts: 71

I would add some extra extract at bottling time, otherwise the vanilla flavor will be over powered. I brought some some good stuff from mexico, make sure you find a quality brand. If you keep it the way it is, I think you will be hard pressed to detect the vanilla at all. It really depends on what you are going for.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2010, 05:40 PM   #4
DavidHawman
Recipes 
 
Feb 2010
State College Pa
Posts: 172
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts


I agree with Oldsock, the majority of the vanilla flavor will be in the bourbon after you soak it so you should think about adding the bourbon as well. After all, vanilla extract is mostly ethanol since vanilla is so soluble in ethanol.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2010, 07:26 PM   #5
I_B_Mongo
 
I_B_Mongo's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Jul 2009
Kansas City, Missouri
Posts: 576
Liked 8 Times on 8 Posts


Yes, I planned on throwing in the bourbon too. Figured it would all blend just fine, as this will be the second beer I've run through the barrel (so not as much bourbon flavors left).
Thanks to everybody for the help. I'll also be sure to taste before bottling/kegging to see if I need to add some vanilla extract. I want you to be able to tell that there's vanilla in it, but don't want it to overpower the beer.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2010, 08:41 PM   #6
pint4pat
Recipes 
 
Feb 2009
, Virginia
Posts: 25

I brew a vanilla bourbon winter ale (recipe is on this site). I did exactly what you did except I soaked the vanilla bean and oak chips in bourbon during primary fermentation. I also added some good vanilla extract to it. I then moved to secondary and threw that concoction in. The vanilla is evident on the back of the tounge in the after taste. All in all one of my best beers - my wife loves it !! I will be doing an all grain version of it this fall.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2010, 10:36 PM   #7
JesseRYC
Recipes 
 
Feb 2010
Tempe, AZ
Posts: 83

I agree with pint4pat. For my vanilla porter, I cut up and add four madagascar beans and submerge them in rum instead of bourbon during the primary. However, I only add the beans to the secondary, instead of adding the whole mixture - rum and all. The vanilla flavor is not overpowering at all and is a very nice compliment to beer.
__________________
On Tap: Pecan Brown, Vanilla Porter
Primary: Nothing :(
Secondary: Nothing :(
Conditioning: Pumpkin Porter

 
Reply With Quote


Reply
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Vanilla Beans for Vanilla Bourbon Imperial Porter roconweb Recipes/Ingredients 6 10-14-2013 09:13 PM
vanilla question ak40kush Recipes/Ingredients 6 10-31-2009 03:50 PM
Gnome Vanilla Cream flavoring in place of vanilla extract? OLDBREW Recipes/Ingredients 0 10-09-2009 11:24 AM
Vanilla Wheat Question tjstromquist Extract Brewing 6 04-12-2006 03:06 PM
Vanilla Bean Question Lil' Sparky General Techniques 11 03-11-2006 08:42 AM


Forum Jump