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Old 03-08-2010, 03:10 AM   #1
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I'm in the process of designing my indoor electric brewery. As I lifted my very heavy 15 gallon kettle today to dump the water out of it after cleaning, I was thinking how great it would be to be able to clean the system without having to lift things.

So how do CIP setups work? How do you get all of the cleaning solution out of the bottom of the kettle? Even the best diptube will leave a quart or so down there.

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Old 03-08-2010, 03:57 AM   #2
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Time to put an overhead hoist in the garage??

Are you in the new house yet?


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Old 03-08-2010, 04:03 AM   #3
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Interested in this as well. I'm guessing you pump as much of the cleaning solution out of the boil kettle, MLT or whatever and then rinse it with water and pump the water through the system.

 
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Old 03-08-2010, 05:38 PM   #4
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wet/dry shop vac as much as you can then rinse as above?

 
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Old 03-08-2010, 05:52 PM   #5
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I have thought about this too. The only thing I have come up with is using a spray ball that you run OxiClean or PBR through after the brewday. 2 things would be required, a tight sealing lid and a center drain, probably like 1" or more to get the debris out. I think it would be worth the effort after a few hundred batches, but I am not ready to bite the bullet yet...

 
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Old 03-08-2010, 07:42 PM   #6
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I've cleaned in place for the last 5 brews or so. If someone is over brewing with me, we'll carry the MLT out back and dump it on the compost pile but for the most part I clean in place both with and without my shop vac.

Clean in place doesn't necessarily mean hands completely off so the whole spray ball thing isn't necessary. To me, CIP means I don't move my vessels off the stand and I don't dismantle anything. I scrub the tough stuff by hand and recirculate hot Oxyclean too. After I drain most of the liquid out, I spray out with the garden hose and drain again. Any leftover water gets sucked out with a big grout sponge and wrung out.

If you're set up with a wet/dry shop vac, you'll want the wet filter installed. I also found that I had to rig up an extra large splatter shield inside to keep grain from getting lodged in that filter. They may have redesigned them since I got mine. The downside to the vac use is that you still have to carry the bin and dump it and hose out the hose. So, I don't love cleaning the cleaning equipment.
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Old 03-08-2010, 08:33 PM   #7
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Just had a thought, if you used a mesh bag like the brew-in-a-bag method to line the mash tun then all you need to remove the spent grain is to pull the bag out, then rinse, cleaner, rinse, sanitiser.
Why were you lifting a full kettle, can you drain it through the valve first?

 
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Old 03-08-2010, 08:46 PM   #8
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Matt: I was not lifting the full kettle - there was maybe 1/2 gallon of liquid in it. But the 15 gallon Morebeer kettle is very heavy and unwieldy. It's not like I'm killing myself, but it'd certainly be easier to not have to drag it around.

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Old 03-08-2010, 08:49 PM   #9
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Along with the clean in place idea, people that recirculate hot Oxyclean or PBW is this safe to dump on your lawn? Iím working on a Brutus clone and had planned to do just that, but never thought about if pumping my PBW out into the yard would cause any problems like say killing my grass. Everything Iíve read says PBW is environmentally friendly and biodegradable, but I thought Iíd ask before trying it myself.

 
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Pumps and return hoses. That is CIP.



 
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