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Old 03-02-2010, 07:37 PM   #1
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Default Help me with a Surly Darkness clone recipe!

I honestly have ZERO homebrewing experience, but want to get into it soon. Obviously, this beer wouldn't be done on my first brewing attempt, but it my favorite beer that I one day hope to replicate.

I hope that some of you have had Darkness so that you can provide some good info on how to come up with something similar once I finally do step up to the appropriate level. Who knows, maybe someone else has wanted to try to brew this also and they can get a head start.

Info from the Surly website:

STYLE: Russian Imperial Stout/American Double Stout
MALT: Pale Ale, Golden Promise , Crystal, Dark Crystal, Oats, Black, Chocolate, Roast
SUGAR: Belgian Dark Candi Sugar
HOPS: Columbus, Amarillo, Simcoe
YEAST: English Ale

OG: 29° Plato
ABV: 9.8 % v/v
COLOR: 55 šL
IBU: 85



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Old 03-16-2010, 02:34 PM   #2
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here's what a nice guy on another forum came up with: thoughts?

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Just threw this together...

13.00 lbs Pale
4.00 lbs Golden Promise
2.00 Crystal 80
1.75 Flaked Oats
0.75 Chocolate
0.30 Black Patent
0.30 Roasted Barley
2.00 Dark Candy Sugar

The trick here is the hops. But depending on your system/efficiency this could be all over the board

2.00 Columbus 90
1.00 Amarillo 15
1.00 Simcoe 15
2.00 Amarillo 0
1.00 Simcoe 0

And one HELLOFA yeast starter.

I have only had this once so take it from there. If you like it a bit more hoppy you could bump that up &/or dry hop it as well. It wouldn't surprise me if Choc malt wasn't a lot more than what I listed as well.


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Old 03-16-2010, 02:41 PM   #3
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That's ballpark low 60s apparent attenuation. I would use a lot of crystal and mash high.
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:47 AM   #4
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Nice I might make this next
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:43 PM   #5
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friend had this last night, might be able to get some more.
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Well, for your first brew you don't want to start with an all grain recipe. I would recommend doing extract batches at the beginning of your brewing career so that you can gain a better understanding of the process and build some solid skills that will be the foundation of your future efforts.

We can help you convert this into extract. Give me a couple hours to get some other stuff done and I'll take a stab at it.
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Oh snap. After I posted, I noticed that the OP is almost the years old.
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This is an old post, but has anyone had any luck with this? I'm thinking of doing one soon so it's drinkable by Halloween.

I may convert this to extract since I have 12lbs laying around. Not sure if I'm going for a 'clone', just a big RIS with a lot going on and hopefully some of the characteristics of Darkness. I'll post the conversion if I attempt it.
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I did something similar(see below). OG: 1.110 after a 3 hour boil. I have have this in the fermenter(brewed in Feb.). When I took a gravity reading last month the gravity had dropped to 1.035 and the taste was really nice, but I might not have hopped it enough. It's too early to tell though. I like my RIS's to be more matly then hoppy so this might work out ok! I have a 2012 bottle of Darkness that I will open in November and compare my version to Surly's version.

10 lbs Pale Ale Malt
5 lbs Golden Promise
2 lbs Oat Malt
1 lbs American Crystal 60
1 lbs Special B
.5 lbs Chocolate Malt
.5 lbs Roasted Barley
.5 lbs Black Patent
.5 lbs Blgian Chocolate Malt

1.5 oz Horizon Pellet (60 min)
1 oz EK Golding (10 min)
1.5 oz EK Golding (Whirlpool)

Pitched on a yeast cake of WYeast London Ale.
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3 hour boil!!? Wow, how come? Good to know about the hops. Surly always says "hop it like an ipa" about darkness. I'm guessing a iipa


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