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Old 11-14-2006, 02:34 AM   #1
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I'm hoping to brew a Rye PA during my Thanksgiving break and I've never done a rye beer. I know the Dude is a rye expert, and I think BP brews with rye. Anybody else?

What I'm thinking based on my research (read surfing the web at work) so far is:

75% or so 2-row
15% rye malt
8% crystal 40
3-5% biscuit/victory

OG around 1054
IBU's around 40-45

S-56 yeast

What say ye? I don't want a monster beer in this case...I need an instructional experience

 
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Old 11-14-2006, 02:53 AM   #2
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With the rye beers I've made, I find it best to keep the hopping levels moderate. Hops tend to overshadow the rye taste, IMHO.

Yours looks good - I would just go easy on flavor & aroma hops to let the rye shine through. Also, use a LOT of rice hulls. Rye is so sticky it's ridiculous, so I wouldn't go over 15-20%. I have a Love/Hate rye beer in my sig because I love to drink it & hate to make it.

 
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Old 11-14-2006, 02:58 AM   #3
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Thanks for the advice...the malted rye will definitely be somewhere around 15% to start with, and I'll bump it up or down (or leave it alone) based on how this one turns out. I'll keep the hops in mind, as well, perhaps lean towards the 40 IBU mark.

 
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Old 11-14-2006, 03:00 AM   #4
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Hey Baron,

I'm new to this forum (tonight actually), but interestingly enough, I tried Terrapin's Rye Pale Ale this weekend and really liked it. I'm thinking about brewing a Rye-P-A myself.

On their website they tell us that, in addition to base malt and Rye, they also use Honey Malt, Munich Malt, Crystal 40, and Victory Malt. I've made an APA that is really good using all those same ingredients (minus the rye), so I think I've got a pretty good recipe for this one.

I'm planning to use a bit more rye than you were (I'm going 21%)...

63% Base Pale Malt
21% Rye Malt
7% Honey Malt
3.5% Crystal 40L
3.5% Light Munich
2% Victory Malt

About the same OG and IBU's

I hope it turns out. I'll keep you posted...

 
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Old 11-14-2006, 03:27 AM   #5
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Definitely let us know how it goes. Terrapin's Rye PA is the one I tasted that I really liked. I've never tried HRR, but Walker is going to comp me a sip at some point. But I'm not really looking for a huge HRR type beer here, something more like the Terrapin would be great. Subtract the honey and Munich malts and it's basically the same recipe (Victory is quite similar to biscuit).

 
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Old 11-14-2006, 03:31 AM   #6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Baron von BeeGee
I've never tried HRR, but Walker is going to comp me a sip at some point.
If you call 22 oz a sip.....

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Old 11-14-2006, 03:36 AM   #7
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HRR is a great beer, but I don't think it has much rye character. Still one of the best I've had, though.

 
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Old 11-14-2006, 03:51 AM   #8
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HRR is a great beer, but I don't think it has much rye character. Still one of the best I've had, though.
I thought it was too over-the-top. Very malty and (because of this) very hoppy.

Don't get me wrong... it was good, but I can't see myself drinking it very often. I'll tuck it away with my stash of Big Foot for those special days.

I've also had the Terripin Rye, which is a tasty beer, but honestly... I think I like Dude's Red Eye Rye more than either HRR or Terrapin's Rye PA.
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Old 11-14-2006, 04:14 AM   #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Baron von BeeGee
I know the Dude is a rye expert,
Uh..hardly!

For you guys ripping HRR, WTF? I think that is an outstanding beer. Very malty and very hoppy. If I could have one a day I'd be in heaven.

I liked mine as well--it was pretty much a HRR clone but like 12 gravity points and 15 IBUs less. I'll do it again but I'm not using any cascade at all. I dry hopped it with one of those magical dissolving hop tablets and it was too much cascade for a beer that shouldn't really be overly citrusey.

Anyway...Beegee the recipe basics look good but be careful with theeh biscuit.
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Old 11-14-2006, 04:51 AM   #10
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I can't believe Dude didn't say it, so I will: Watch your crush! Flour + rye= stuck.
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