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Old 02-18-2010, 10:42 PM   #1
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I have a Wyeast packet that I popped yesterday at noon and it still hasn't swollen up. I called the local brewstore and they said to shake it and if it sounds like its fizzing up inside then its still good. Said it was just slow...

Should I pitch it and hope for the best?

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Old 02-18-2010, 10:46 PM   #2
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24 hours at room temp? Either the inner packet didn't pop, or it's bad I think.

What's the date on it? and are you sure you popped the inner packet? You should be able to feel around and find it if it's not popped.


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Should be fine, esp. if the date is good.

Sometimes I have trouble getting the nutrient pack to burst, you might wanna try re-smacking. Or you could just grab a growler or some vessel to make a small starter up if you have some DME on hand (even better).
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Or you could just grab a growler or some vessel to make a small starter up if you have some DME on hand (even better).
Yep, make a starter. It's the only way to know for sure. I've had Wyeast packs never swell, but the starter took off like crazy.
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Will it hurt anything if I try it and it doesn't take off?
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Well, if your starter doesn't start in three to four days, it may be dead (maybe it got too hot, froze, really old...). Since you made a starter, you wont pitch dead yeast into your wort, and you'll know you need to get some new yeast. It's always a good Idea to have some dry yeast around just in case.
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I used one for the first time last week, until then I had only used dry packets. It was a 3787 about a year old. My LHBS owner suggested to give it a week to swell. I smacked it on a Saturday and it did almost nothing until Wednesday. By Thursday it was swollen very tight and I pitched it into a starter. Maybe it needs more time?
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Will it hurt anything if I try it and it doesn't take off?
Make a starter as suggested above.

And also, a hint....I keep a small variety of dry yeast available in my refrigerator in case I have yeast issues on brew day.

It has saved me more than once.
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I once smacked too hard and broke the outer package. This led to an unswollen pack since the co2 was escaping. But the yeast was still fine.
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+1 to the starter. Also, I've had a couple packets that were less than 4 months old that never swelled. One was a Belgian Abbey II and ended up being one of the most violent starters and fermentation I ever had. The other was a Kolsch. Although with the Kolsch I didn't make a starter, it none the less fermented fine.


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