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Old 10-08-2010, 11:59 AM   #11
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dang thats a really helpful email! I wonder how forthcoming they are with other recipes...


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Old 10-08-2010, 01:50 PM   #12
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Well they have a detailed KBS recipe in Zymurgy, so they seem pretty open. I'd love to get a Dirty Bastard and Red's Rye P.A. recipe, but really didn't want to be that guy e-mailing them constantly and asking for more. I was very happy with this one.

They are hands down one of my favorite breweries. There aren't many out there that have as many different beers that I really love. Dirty Bastard, Red's Rye, the porter, Breakfast stout, KBS, even Cerise - their cherry ale (and I don't really like fruit beers.) They just do a great job across the board.


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Old 10-08-2010, 09:24 PM   #13
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mashing at 155 doesn't make it too sweet? I guess I'm just worried cause this will only be my 3rd AG batch and the first two I mashed at 149 & 150

hmm I've been looking for a good Red's Rye clone too for awhile. Maybe I'll email them next week
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Old 10-09-2010, 12:22 PM   #14
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It's not so much sweet as heavier. Their porter is a pretty full bodied beer. I lowered it the first time out of the same concern and got a thinner and drier beer. It was still good, but lacked some of the creaminess and heft the Founder's beer has. I raised it to 155 on my second batch and it's definitely much closer, and a better beer.
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Old 10-25-2010, 10:38 PM   #15
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Thinking of doing a porter soon. I want a nice smooth dark beer for X-mas time. I was kind of leaning towards a barleywine, but don't want to wait a year to drink it at the moment, and I think porters seem to be a similar character, except the barleywine (only one I've had was Founder's Nemesis) seems to be a little smoother and slightly less roasted. I might have to try this recipe, as I've had Founder's Porter, and its definitely a great beer, even though it looks like motor oil, I didn't find it TOO thick or chewy, even though I like to chew on my beer from time to time Any suggestions to making it "smoother" like a barleywine, or do you say to go for this exactly as-is?
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Old 10-26-2010, 03:08 PM   #16
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Austin Homebrew just added a Founders Porter Clone

http://www.austinhomebrew.com/produc...ducts_id=12744
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Thinking of doing a porter soon. I want a nice smooth dark beer for X-mas time. I was kind of leaning towards a barleywine, but don't want to wait a year to drink it at the moment, and I think porters seem to be a similar character, except the barleywine (only one I've had was Founder's Nemesis) seems to be a little smoother and slightly less roasted. I might have to try this recipe, as I've had Founder's Porter, and its definitely a great beer, even though it looks like motor oil, I didn't find it TOO thick or chewy, even though I like to chew on my beer from time to time Any suggestions to making it "smoother" like a barleywine, or do you say to go for this exactly as-is?
Well first of all, Nemesis is far from your typical barleywine. Which year of Nemesis did you have, and when? I don't think I've ever heard this year's Nemesis described as smooth, and last year's was apparently very hot fresh but has mellowed out a lot, so I suspect you may have had '09 Nemesis fairly recently. Also, I don't find porters and barleywines all that similar. However, Founders Porter is very hoppy for a porter. So if the only porter you've had is Founders, and the only 'barleywine' you've had was Nemesis, I guess I could see where you might think they're similar. But again, neither are typical for their style.

Also, I think people's definition of "smoothness" in a beer varies greatly. What exactly do you mean by making it smoother? If you mean less hoppy, I'd go with a Fullers Porter clone. If you mean less chewy, lighter bodied, or drier, you could mash at a lower temp (but see psychobrawler's comment on that above) or use less carapils, or both. Personally, I love Founders Porter the way it is, so I made it exactly as per the above recipe. To each his own though, of course.

btw, I see that you're in StL. Are you on stlhops.com?
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This looks good.. too bad I didn't make one before winter set in.

Too late for that
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This looks good.. too bad I didn't make one before winter set in.

Too late for that
WHAT?? It's not even November yet. I know Chicago is a little colder than StL, but still...you could make it this weekend and be drinking it by Thanksgiving if you keg, and definitely before Christmas if you bottle
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I don't keg and Im going to be gone the next couple weekends.

So that means Id brew 2nd weekend of november.. Primary for 3 weeks, Secondary 2 weeks, bottle for 3 weeks. Thats middle of January.

Any time I have done a dark beer, I've let it go in the primary for 3 weeks then secondary for 2 to clear it.


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