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Old 01-26-2010, 08:30 PM   #1
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I currently have an ESB sitting in Primary right now. I used Wyest London ESB 1968 as my yeast.

I'm reading through the details of the yeast and noticed this:

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Diacetyl production is noticeable and a thorough rest is necessary. Yeast traps trub easily and autolysis during storage is accelerated.
To me this seems a bit contradictory. It's basically saying to leave it in order to avoid diacetyl, but then says that during this time autolysis could come on quickly?

Can someone decipher this for someone with only 3 batches under their belt?


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Old 01-26-2010, 08:39 PM   #2
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From what I hear, autolysis is not as big a problem as we think, and dosen't set in for quite a while. I'd say you're safe to leave it in primary for several weeks to a couple of months. I'm sure someone will chime in soon with better info, though.


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Old 01-26-2010, 08:50 PM   #3
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Every time I've used that yeast, I've fermented right about 64-66 and have never needed a diacetyl rest. I normally ferment for 10-14 days in primary... Take a sample and see if you need to do one.
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Old 01-26-2010, 08:53 PM   #4
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The amount of time it would take to clean up diacetyl is way way less than the amount of time it would take to start autolysing. An extra week on the yeast after fermentation would be plenty and more for it to clean up any diacetyl. It would take several months to see autolysis.
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Old 01-26-2010, 11:34 PM   #5
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I have no idea, but that is great yeast, produces a very noticeable and very good flavor.

 
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Old 01-27-2010, 12:20 AM   #6

No worries on the autolysis unless you stay on the trub for a ridiculous amount of time; go ahead with the d-rest if you think it is warranted...have a look at the thread below; you've probably seen it but if not it might help you decide how to proceed.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f13/prev...-please-70438/

 
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Old 01-27-2010, 12:48 AM   #7
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Ya don't worry about autolysis...my esb sat on the 1968 cake for over a month with no off flavors

 
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Old 01-27-2010, 01:24 AM   #8
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Any advantages to using a secondary on this one? I've got a new 5-gallon glass carboy and I'm itching to use it.
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Old 01-27-2010, 01:26 AM   #9

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Any advantages to using a secondary on this one? I've got a new 5-gallon glass carboy and I'm itching to use it.
Why not? Every beer I make gets a secondary. Might be worthwhile to cold condition it if you can.



 
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