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Old 01-19-2010, 01:40 PM   #1
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I took the Fat Tire Clone out of the North American Clone Brews Book. I was brewing this for my SWMBO. I force carbed it last night. I filled up a pint glass, and it doesn't taste like Fat Tire. I have no idea. You guys think you could look it over for me and see what happened? Oh not that I am complaining. It taste closer to Dead Guy Ale. This is something I can live with, but I would like to know how to fix it, for SWMBO. Thanks!!

Type: All Grain
Date: 12/23/2009
Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Brewer: Jud
Boil Size: 6.30 gal Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: My Equipment
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 78.00
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

11.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 84.62 %
1.00 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 7.69 %
0.50 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 3.85 %
0.50 lb Special B Malt (180.0 SRM) Grain 3.85 %
1.00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (60 min) Hops 15.3 IBU
1.00 oz Saaz [4.00 %] (15 min) Hops 6.1 IBU
1 Pkgs Belgian Ale (Wyeast Labs #1214) Yeast-Ale



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.060 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.064 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.015 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.014 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.90 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 0.65 %
Bitterness: 21.4 IBU
Est Color: 19.7 SRM


Mash Profile

Mash Name: Single Infusion, Medium Body Total Grain Weight: 13.00 lb
Sparge Water: 1.52 gal Grain Temperature: 72.0 F
Sparge Temperature: 168.0 F TunTemperature: 72.0 F
Adjust Temp for Equipment: FALSE Mash PH: 5.4 PH

Single Infusion, Medium Body Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 16.25 qt of water at 165.9 F 154.0 F
10 min Mash Out Add 9.10 qt of water at 196.6 F 168.0 F



Carbonation Type: Kegged (Forced CO2) Volumes of CO2: 2.4
Pressure/Weight: 21.6 PSI Carbonation Used: -
Keg/Bottling Temperature: 60.0 F Age for:
Storage Temperature: 37.0 F


 
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:58 PM   #2
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I've never had Dead Guy but that grain bill looks to be heavy on the crystal and the crystals that are used seem too dark for a Fat Tire clone. I would eliminate the Special B entirely and use something like Aromatic or Biscuit instead. And then reduce the amount and color of the C120. I'd also increase the Munich malt to around 2 pounds (reduce the Pale 2-row to compensate). I'd also throw in some Carapils.

IMO, Fat Tire doesn't have the belgian yeast flavors either so I'd just use a clean ale yeast.

Like you said, that grain bill looks like it would make a fine tasty beer just not quite Fat Tire-ish. Also, from your description this beer is still very young so I'd let it condition a bit and reassess.
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Old 01-19-2010, 02:13 PM   #3
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This is the one I use. It's also a touch on the dark side, but tastes pretty good.

6.50 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 70.27 %
0.50 lb Biscuit Malt (23.0 SRM) Grain 5.41 %
0.50 lb Carafoam (2.0 SRM) Grain 5.41 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 5.41 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 5.41 %
0.50 lb Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 5.41 %
0.25 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 2.70 %
0.75 oz Williamette [5.50 %] (60 min) Hops 14.7 IBU
0.50 oz Fuggles [4.50 %] (20 min) Hops 4.9 IBU
0.25 oz Fuggles [4.50 %] (0 min) Hops -

 
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Old 01-19-2010, 02:15 PM   #4
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This is the one I use. It's also a touch on the dark side, but tastes pretty good.

6.50 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 70.27 %
0.50 lb Biscuit Malt (23.0 SRM) Grain 5.41 %
0.50 lb Carafoam (2.0 SRM) Grain 5.41 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 5.41 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 5.41 %
0.50 lb Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 5.41 %
0.25 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 2.70 %
0.75 oz Williamette [5.50 %] (60 min) Hops 14.7 IBU
0.50 oz Fuggles [4.50 %] (20 min) Hops 4.9 IBU
0.25 oz Fuggles [4.50 %] (0 min) Hops -
This one looks good. I'd eliminate the chocolate malt, bump up the Munich, use Northern Brewer for bittering and Willamette for flavor and aroma.
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Old 01-19-2010, 02:23 PM   #5
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Thanks guys. It really stumped me when I filled my pint glass. SWMBO has been waiting for this one to come on tap. Damn to bad luck. I will make the changes to the grain bill and brew again. Just kind of sucks that the clone book was off so much. Made me rethink buying it now!!

 
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:14 PM   #6
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BTW, don't force carb this one. Just put it on the gas and leave it go for three weeks. If you don't have a spare gas line, prime the keg and let it sit in a warm closet for a month.

 
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:46 PM   #7
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Don't know if it helps, but the NB Phat Tyre extract kit tastes very close IMO. It used Victory and Caramel 60 malts, with the base being mainly munich LME. Yeast was belgian abbey II.

 
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Old 01-19-2010, 06:12 PM   #8
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I know many use a belgian yeast for this but I've heard 1056 or similar is more appropriate. I used a dry yeast when I did it and mine tasted a lot like the original.
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Old 01-19-2010, 07:37 PM   #9
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I know many use a belgian yeast for this but I've heard 1056 or similar is more appropriate. I used a dry yeast when I did it and mine tasted a lot like the original.
IIRC, the AHS Fat Tire kit doesn't use a Belgian yeast and the reviews I've read is that it is closer than the NB kit.
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Old 01-19-2010, 08:04 PM   #10
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I used WLP051


 
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