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Old 01-04-2010, 02:38 AM   #11
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im thinking 3 different open air fermenters


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Old 01-04-2010, 04:43 AM   #12
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Maybe he can try to find something like this used and put some sort of insulation in between the sinks.



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Old 01-04-2010, 02:29 PM   #13
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I would be concerned about heat transfer between the HLT and the MLT. Your HLT temperature is going to be higher than your mash temperature and lots of heat is going to keep flowing in from the HLT through that steel wall.

If you got really lucky, the heat loss out the front/back/bottom/top into the atmosphere might be roughly the same as the heat coming in from the HLT. I wouldn't count on it though
No worries there. You can keep the HLT temp at say 3-4F above mash temp for 50 minutes, then set the controller to sparge temps. I think running a HERMS on this would be pretty practical.

I would insulate around the whole rig.
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Old 01-04-2010, 03:21 PM   #14
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I think finding one without common walls like sawdustguy posted would be ideal, and it would make fitting lids easier as well. I agree, HERMS would be really nice in this.

 
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Old 01-04-2010, 03:44 PM   #15
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I like the looks of that last sink, SDG. Getting a bit of sink envy here.


If you go the spray foam route for insulation, there are large containers available that will save quite a bit of money and hassle. It's also important to note that not all spray foams are built alike. The two part stuff is much better than the ones that are moisture activated. (in a former life, I worked for the folks who invented expanding foam)
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Old 01-04-2010, 05:05 PM   #16
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how much is 'very little money'?

if he only has $200, but has time to scrounge, I'd buy two kegs, a turkey burner, and a pump.
(actually, that's what I *did* do).
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Old 01-04-2010, 05:59 PM   #17
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how much is 'very little money'?

if he only has $200, but has time to scrounge, I'd buy two kegs, a turkey burner, and a pump.
(actually, that's what I *did* do).
Why? In the original post I mentioned he wanted it to be an electric system which is much cheaper than running back and forth for propane refills. I can get a decent one new for $350 (cost) from my buddy Brian. I may aslo keep my eyes peeled on the used market. I am giving my brother two PID's, a pump, my manual ball valves, my old DIY immersion chiller to use as a herms coil and any copper pipe or fittings I had left over from my original build. All he needs is two SSR's, elements, some fittings and some silicone tubing. Besides, legal kegs are not so simple to come by in this neck of the woods not to mention the fun we would have building it together. It is really cold here now so this will be a spring project.
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Old 01-08-2010, 07:00 PM   #18
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Have you seen this website?

http://www.brewmation.com/
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Old 01-08-2010, 09:33 PM   #19
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Have you seen this website?

http://www.brewmation.com/
I'm waiting for a quote on the "electric conversion kit" since I don't know enough about wiring things to feel confident I wouldn't electrocute myself.
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Old 01-09-2010, 05:38 AM   #20
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Have you seen this website?

http://www.brewmation.com/
Yup....That website actually planted the seed for my brothers system. I figured we could build it for way less than $750 with getting a good deal on the sink, and the left over parts I will donate from my brewery automation retrofit project. I will give him a pump, the PID's, the ball valves, some left over copper fittings, two 96" lengths of 1/2" copper pipe, a 20 amp GFCI, the 12 ga. wire and the lugs and terminals. He will have to buy the sink, elements, a couple of SSR's, a couple of RTD's, some silicone tubing and any other fittings he needs. We will be insulating the sinks and see where the build takes us. There will be no control panel as the switches and PID's will be mounted into the backsplash.


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