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Old 01-02-2010, 02:48 AM   #1
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Has anyone tried this yet? I'm trying one and it's pretty good. The bottle mentions roasted barley and black malt but the flavors of those really don't come though much. I get a slight roastiness in the aroma but that's bout it.

I'd love to know what else is in this. There has to be carafa because it's very black without the flavors roasted barley and Black patent.

So black yet so smooth.
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Old 01-02-2010, 03:01 AM   #2
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Very nice. I'm not a big Widmer fan at all, but I think this is the first Cascadian Dark Ale I've seen in 12 oz bottles, so I've got to hand it to them for being first.

 
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Old 01-02-2010, 02:11 PM   #3
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Haven't tried it, but there has been a great deal of experimentation with CDAs. Roasty and hoppy don't seem to mix well, so the good ones are focusing on color and just a hint of dark flavors. I had great hopes for this style, as I like dark beers.
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Old 01-08-2010, 03:06 AM   #4
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10oz through my first one. very tasty. Great nose. I like it.

 
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Old 01-08-2010, 03:44 AM   #5
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Has anyone tried this yet? I'm trying one and it's pretty good. The bottle mentions roasted barley and black malt but the flavors of those really don't come though much. I get a slight roastiness in the aroma but that's bout it.

I'd love to know what else is in this. There has to be carafa because it's very black without the flavors roasted barley and Black patent.

So black yet so smooth.

I just came here specifically to make this same thread! Debates about the suitability of the name aside, this is one DAMN TASTY beer!

 
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Old 01-08-2010, 03:51 AM   #6
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I've had a few. It's a great IPA but the pitch black part is kinda gimmicky. Not sure if I was blindfolded I would have guessed it was a black IPA. Tastes just like a regular IPA with maybe a slight hint of the dark malts. Very tasty overall.

Here's some info from Widmer's website:

bitterness 65 IBU
alcohol by volume 6.5%
original gravity 16 PLATO
malts Two Row Pale, Caramel 10 L, Special Roast, Carafa Special II
hops BITTERING: Alchemy
AROMA: Alchemy, Cascades
DRY HOP: Cascade T-45

http://www.widmer.com/beer_w_series.aspx
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I've had a few. It's a great IPA but the pitch black part is kinda gimmicky. Not sure if I was blindfolded I would have guessed it was a black IPA. Tastes just like a regular IPA with maybe a slight hint of the dark malts. Very tasty overall.

Here's some info from Widmer's website:

bitterness 65 IBU
alcohol by volume 6.5%
original gravity 16 PLATO
malts Two Row Pale, Caramel 10 L, Special Roast, Carafa Special II
hops BITTERING: Alchemy
AROMA: Alchemy, Cascades
DRY HOP: Cascade T-45

http://www.widmer.com/beer_w_series.aspx
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Uh, yeah...I'm gonna have to go ahead and, sort of...disagree with you there.

I don't think this tastes like a regular IPA at all. It anything, I'd say it tastes more like a highly hopped porter (with a slightly thinner body). I've never had any other "Cascadian Dark", so maybe that's part of it, but for me, this is something uniquely apart from an IPA. And I sure am enjoying it

 
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I don't think this tastes like a regular IPA at all. It anything, I'd say it tastes more like a highly hopped porter (with a slightly thinner body). I've never had any other "Cascadian Dark", so maybe that's part of it, but for me, this is something uniquely apart from an IPA. And I sure am enjoying it
I'm enjoying it too, but a highly hopped porter it's not. I do detect the dark malts, but their very much in the background compared to the hops. It has a nice malt backbone to contribute some balance, but the intense chocolate or roasted flavors common in dark beers just isn't there IMO. Sounds like this is how Windmer intended it.

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It is almost a traditional IPA but it is instead brewed to the emerging style of Cascadian Dark. We add a modest amount of a specially made debittered black malt to give this IPA a very dark color but without the characteristic dark malt flavors
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Old 01-08-2010, 05:00 AM   #9
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I had one (or four) for the first time last night and really liked it. I think the hoppiness would be a bit boring and one dimensional for a normal IPA, but actually went well with relatively simple malt tastes. Just a bit of dark roast, very light body. It's an easy drinker and pretty good.

 
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To quote Lumbergh from Office Space:
Uh, yeah...I'm gonna have to go ahead and, sort of...disagree with you there.

I don't think this tastes like a regular IPA at all. It anything, I'd say it tastes more like a highly hopped porter (with a slightly thinner body). I've never had any other "Cascadian Dark", so maybe that's part of it, but for me, this is something uniquely apart from an IPA. And I sure am enjoying it
Really? Just close your eyes and take a sip. It's an ipa. You have to search for those roasted malts. The color is very misleading and influences the impression of it. Those dark roasted malts and roasted barley are certainly in the background.
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