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Old 12-28-2009, 09:42 PM   #1
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Before I order, I'd like to get someone's expert opinion that this is the Love temp controller I need to use in my 220v electric kettle system.

Thanks!

http://www.drillspot.com/products/46...erature_Switch



 
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Old 12-28-2009, 09:51 PM   #2
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For that cost... why not get a full on PID?

http://www.auberins.com/index.php?ma...ef327df5f4a62b


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Old 12-28-2009, 09:57 PM   #3
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For that cost... why not get a full on PID?
In the interest of full disclosure, he would also need to purchase an SSR ($19) and temp sensor ($12+).
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Old 12-29-2009, 02:11 AM   #4
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would a love controller act as the ssr?
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Old 12-29-2009, 04:54 AM   #5
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would a love controller act as the ssr?
The Love controller has a built-in 16 amp relay whereas the PID requires an external relay or SSR to function.

I'm with you, I prefer the PID/SSR combo but it does cost more and is slightly more complicated to configure. Either setup is a good choice depending on your needs and available funds.
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Old 12-29-2009, 07:49 AM   #6
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Lamar, you seem like the bloke to ask about this, since you ooze knowledge of temperature controller electronic doodads!

Regarding ye olde Love Controllers, is the $45 version is any less effective than the $65 flavour for the purposes of controlling the ASCO valves on a Brutus?

 
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Old 12-29-2009, 09:37 AM   #7
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The Love controller has a built-in 16 amp relay whereas the PID requires an external relay or SSR to function.
actually this is not so, I have a Aubrens pid and it has a 10amp relay built in for 45 and came with a k thermocouple as well. Granted I also have a 60amp ssr I got off ebay for $5 for use with the element I will be installing.

One thing that was not noted is that you also need to get a heat sink for your ssr when running it with that much power.

 
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Old 12-29-2009, 02:11 PM   #8
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actually this is not so, I have a Aubrens pid and it has a 10amp relay built in for 45
The PID linked above does NOT have a built-in relay (SSR only) and you can't even run a 1500 watt 120v element with a 10 amp relay.

My point is - for brewing applications, a PID is useless without an high amperage external SSR/relay and a temp sensor.
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Old 12-29-2009, 02:18 PM   #9
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Lamar, you seem like the bloke to ask about this, since you ooze knowledge of temperature controller electronic doodads!

Regarding ye olde Love Controllers, is the $45 version is any less effective than the $65 flavour for the purposes of controlling the ASCO valves on a Brutus?
The $65 controller is the older TS series and includes a temp probe. The $45 controller is the newer TS2 series and I don't believe it includes a temp probe. Also, the one you linked to requires 240v.

See the TS2 series for more information.

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The Series TS2 Digital Temperature Switches are designed to operate with PTC (1000Ω @ 25C) probes sold separately.
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The Series TS includes a thermistor with 5 ft (1.5 m) cable, fitting clips for panel mounting, gasket, rear terminal cover, and instruction manual.
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Old 12-29-2009, 07:05 PM   #10
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Thanks for the input, everyone. I am setting up an electric control panel to run one 220v 3500w heating element and one 220v 4500w heating element.

It looks like the TS-series Love controllers are my best bet for $ and simplicity.

Agreed?



 
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