Ferment the F-Pack? - Home Brew Forums

Register Now!
Home Brew Forums > Wine, Mead, Cider, Sake & Soda > Winemaking Forum > Ferment the F-Pack?

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-26-2009, 04:52 PM   #1
PAC762
Recipes 
 
Dec 2008
Wilmington, DE
Posts: 97
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts



I was given a Wine Expert Selections Reisling Ice wine kit for x-mas. However, I hate sweet wine. Should I leave the F-pack out entirely or should I mix it into the must at the start and allow it to ferment?

Also, which of the following yeast would you recommend to make this into a dry wine?:
-EC-111e
-K1V-1116
-71B-1122
-Cote de blanc


 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2009, 04:59 PM   #2
mmadmikes1
Recipes 
 
May 2009
Washington ST
Posts: 239
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts


Nothing will make a Riesling into a dry red, it is a white. Add flaver pack at secondary if you don't want sweet. I would use the 1122, it can be dry and still have its fruit taste, my opinion that MAKES A GOOD RIESLING. I

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2009, 05:13 PM   #3
PAC762
Recipes 
 
Dec 2008
Wilmington, DE
Posts: 97
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by mmadmikes1 View Post
Nothing will make a Riesling into a dry red, it is a white. Add flaver pack at secondary if you don't want sweet. I would use the 1122, it can be dry and still have its fruit taste, my opinion that MAKES A GOOD RIESLING. I
Sorry. i meant dry wine. Not thinking well this morning.

Thanks for the help.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2009, 06:12 PM   #4
Wade E
Beer Buster
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
Wade E's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Mar 2008
Middlebury, Ct.
Posts: 818
Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts


I dont know, these have a pretty high starting sg sometimes and if so leave it out entirely or it may not finish fermenting and end up very sweet anyways.
__________________
Brewing

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2009, 06:22 PM   #5
PAC762
Recipes 
 
Dec 2008
Wilmington, DE
Posts: 97
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by Wade E View Post
I dont know, these have a pretty high starting sg sometimes and if so leave it out entirely or it may not finish fermenting and end up very sweet anyways.
Good point. The kit instructions say OG should be 1.155-1.165. This looks to be w/o the f-pack. According to my hydrometer, potential alcohol would be over 20%. It looks like the yeast will not be able to ferment this dry.

I'm guessing that this is a long-shot, but.... Is there any chance of getting decent results from diluting the kit with either extra water or maybe welches white grape juice to get a 5-gallon batch of dry wine?

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2009, 06:32 PM   #6
DaveAllen
Recipes 
 
Nov 2009
SC
Posts: 111
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts


Why not follow the directions with the kit, and use the yeast included?

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2009, 08:54 PM   #7
DoctorCAD
Recipes 
 
Jun 2008
Fayetteville, NC
Posts: 1,343
Liked 105 Times on 98 Posts


Total waste of money to buy an Ice Wine kit and not make Ice Wine with it.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2009, 09:08 PM   #8
DarkStar
Recipes 
 
Sep 2005
Southwest Wisconsin
Posts: 37
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts


Make it as designed and give it out as gifts next year. Fpack would contain sorbate, and sg is extremely high most yeast will have issues getting started let alone finishing in the style range.

Also could just see where it finishes on gravity and skip the adding the fpack all together

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2009, 09:20 PM   #9
PAC762
Recipes 
 
Dec 2008
Wilmington, DE
Posts: 97
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by DoctorCAD View Post
Total waste of money to buy an Ice Wine kit and not make Ice Wine with it.
As stated in my original post, it was a gift. I did not buy it.


Quote:
Make it as designed and give it out as gifts next year. Fpack would contain sorbate, and sg is extremely high most yeast will have issues getting started let alone finishing in the style range.

Also could just see where it finishes on gravity and skip the adding the fpack all together
I think this is what I'm going to do. Just make the kit without the f-pack and give it away if it turns out too sweet for me.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2009, 01:06 AM   #10
Hillbilly_Bill
 
Hillbilly_Bill's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Dec 2009
Way back in the hills...
Posts: 122

Quote:
Originally Posted by PAC762 View Post
I think this is what I'm going to do. Just make the kit without the f-pack and give it away if it turns out too sweet for me.
I was told on another forum recently that if I left the f-pack out of my Blackberry Merlot that I would be depriving the wine of a good bit of flavor that was designed to be included in the wine.
I was also told that I could put half of the f-pack in with the juice and ferment in the primary... adding the other half at the end of fermentation just prior to adding sulfide and sorbate... or was it after adding the chemicals.
Anyway, if this would work why couldn't you add the entire f-pack up front? Surely it doesn't contain that much sorbate?
Or... add the f-pack after primary fermentation has begun. Sorbate will not stop a good strong fermentation... it will only impede a stalled fermentation from restarting.
Hey... what do you have to lose? I bet this will make a nice, flavorful, dry wine.
Good luck...
Bill

 
Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
1 yeast pack or 2? alexavery Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 7 03-19-2009 03:39 PM
The $22 six-pack kornbread Commercial Brew Discussion 11 12-12-2008 08:17 PM
Wyeast pack farrout General Techniques 6 09-29-2008 04:12 PM
Smack pack vs dry ferment time vtchuck Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 5 05-27-2007 09:47 PM


Forum Jump