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Old 12-28-2009, 08:01 AM   #11
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You should be able to dip the bottle in a container of water and dry ice and freeze the neck before it sublimates. Just remember if all the water in the container freezes the pressure of the CO2 gas in the ice can make it explode.

 
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Old 12-28-2009, 10:24 AM   #12
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I think this thread has taken another direction. Originally people were talking about putting dry ice into the bottle. Now people are talking about méthode traditionnelle which is a very old French method of making champagne by carbonating it naturally with yeast and removing the sediment plug by freezing the neck. Either way, both are cool topics. I would like to see somebody use a sliver of dry ice and try to carbonate that way.

 
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Old 12-28-2009, 10:41 AM   #13
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I think someone already mentioned that, but yes...
I would like to see a video of the explosion, too.

 
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Old 12-28-2009, 03:39 PM   #14
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Thread: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f35/dry-...n-video-29448/

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Old 12-28-2009, 04:15 PM   #15
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Since this is a non-beer subforum and it might not be completely obvious, you can carbonate mead or other wines without any lees in the bottle by force carbonating them in a soda keg using bottled c02. This would require a couple hundred dollars worth of equipment but is safe, effective, predictable etc.

 
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Old 12-28-2009, 06:45 PM   #16
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Since this is a non-beer subforum and it might not be completely obvious, you can carbonate mead or other wines without any lees in the bottle by force carbonating them in a soda keg using bottled c02. This would require a couple hundred dollars worth of equipment but is safe, effective, predictable etc.
Yeah people do use kegs/beer guns/counter-pressure fillers, I think that people are just having fun trying out new stuff. After all the wine, mead, and cider makers are sometimes the bastard children of brewing who try crazy stuff anyway.

 
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Old 12-29-2009, 02:39 AM   #17
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I noticed Yuri's video used a plastic soda bottle. With the price of the honey involved and the time it takes to make & age a mead, the thoughts of putting it in a soda bottle and shaking it up gives me the shivers....
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Old 12-29-2009, 10:37 AM   #18
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I noticed Yuri's video used a plastic soda bottle. With the price of the honey involved and the time it takes to make & age a mead, the thoughts of putting it in a soda bottle and shaking it up gives me the shivers....
Aren't soda bottles made of PET? This is the same stuff used to make Better Bottles, isn't it?

 
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Old 12-29-2009, 03:54 PM   #19
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Aren't soda bottles made of PET? This is the same stuff used to make Better Bottles, isn't it?
Not sure, but plenty of people use 2 liter soda bottles to brew. It's just one of those "things" that people look down on. Like when I mentioned that I drink homebrew straight from the bottle and people gasped. Whatever works for you, I say!

 
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Old 12-29-2009, 05:11 PM   #20
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Dry ice and water still wont get any colder than normal ice and water. Water is still limited to 0 celcius as it's freezing point, more or less. If you want to flash freeze the neck of the bottles use acetone and dry ice, -78 Celcius. You of course then are potentially introducing poisons into your drink.

There was something about ice and Calcium chloride I read about reaching -30 or -40 celcius when used as a slurry with just ice, no water involved.

 
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