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Old 10-25-2006, 11:56 PM   #21
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I think I remember that the beer stores didnt want to take the returns, and therefore the govnt made the recycling premium add too much cost to the beer.
(or made it unlawful to sell without a separate recycling program)
If you have a monopoly, and are getting feed by big business, it is pretty easy to push around the little guy.
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Old 10-26-2006, 02:12 AM   #22
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For those of you in the western provinces, the Yukon Brewing Company makes an awesome red/copper ale: Arctic Red. I had the stuff once going through Whitehorse. If their other brews are anything like that, it would be worth checking out.

 
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Old 10-26-2006, 05:33 PM   #23
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Soon we'll have to do a poll to see how many of us canucks are on this board.

grinch...the're a lot of brewers in the Ottawa region. Most of the guys on the
http://barleyment.wort.ca/biz/?biz=48 are from Ontario. There are a few of us east.
boo boo, I was referring to commercial microbreweries. I believe that homebrewing is the only place we can get quality beer, shorting of making a run for the border.

 
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Old 10-26-2006, 05:35 PM   #24
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A few years ago I went t the Beer Festival downtown T.O. It mainly featured Cdn micros. One complaint I heard from several owners was that the Ontario owned Beer Store would not allow the micros into the store since they wouldn't accept their bottles for deposit...I think this was a combo of the big breweries and their influence on govnt that held back a lot of the micros.
I think that is one of the biggest problems. Gov't controlled booze. If they'd privatize it, we'd probably get a lot more variety and easier access to the consumer.

 
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Old 10-26-2006, 08:30 PM   #25
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Actually with privatization you would probably get less variety. At least here in BC the LDB guarantee's regional placemnt of beers form small micros. If the beer is successful it will look at spreading distribution amongst gvt stores.

Private sales means big distributers that come along and give you deals to buy only what they offer. I worked in a Beer and wine many years ago and that was what it was like with the wine distributors.
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Old 10-27-2006, 01:59 AM   #26
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Ok, I'm just another dumb American sticking his nose northward but lemmee get this straight... your government owns national breweries?! Or are they just gov't owned beer stores? Just curious.

 
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Old 10-27-2006, 02:09 AM   #27
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Or are they just gov't owned beer stores?

In some provinces, though in Alberta (where I live) they are private. For some strange reason, a store which sells food cannot also sell booze in the same building, ie. no beer section at 7-11 or Safeway. I never understood that one.
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Old 10-27-2006, 02:36 AM   #28
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Ok, I'm just another dumb American sticking his nose northward but lemmee get this straight... your government owns national breweries?! Or are they just gov't owned beer stores? Just curious.
The government doesn't own any breweries.

Depending on the province, they may or may not run the liquor stores (like in the US) and may also run beer stores.

In Quebec, you can buy beer just about anywhere you want, corner stores, supermarkets, Costco etc. any time you want. In Ontario (right next door), beer can only be purchased at government outlets!?!

 
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Old 10-27-2006, 02:48 AM   #29
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Depending on the province, they may or may not run the liquor stores (like in the US) and may also run beer stores.
In what US state does the gov't own liquor stores? I'm not saying they don't exist but I've never heard of them. Are you talking about a duty free shop?

 
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Old 10-27-2006, 02:52 AM   #30
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boo boo, I was referring to commercial microbreweries. I believe that homebrewing is the only place we can get quality beer, shorting of making a run for the border.
I've been to many Beer Stores and LCBOs in the Ottawa area and have been surprised at the large selection available. I think there's one near Bank and Walkely that was particularly good.

 
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