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Old 12-08-2009, 02:37 AM   #1
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I am looking into the ability of sampling from an oak barrel.

Some use SS nails. Anyone know what size hole and nail is used? IE Russian River

I have seen spiles used in cask beer. Any information on that? I hear a tapered bit sized for the spile. The problem with that is so far I would have to buy 25 spiles, but only need a few.

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Old 12-08-2009, 05:08 PM   #2
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wine thief or syringe through the bunghole?



 
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Old 12-08-2009, 05:12 PM   #3
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wine thief or syringe through the bunghole?
That's what she said!.


Seriously though, a sanatized wine thief is my advice as well. Seems like the easist method.

 
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Old 12-08-2009, 05:20 PM   #4
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I'm totally lost...SS nails? Drill Bits? Spiles? What kind of barrel are you using that you can't use the above methods?

 
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Old 12-08-2009, 05:28 PM   #5
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FWIW I got a 5G barrel from Saccromycenes, and the wine thief doesnt fit!
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Old 12-08-2009, 05:43 PM   #6
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FWIW I got a 5G barrel from Saccromycenes, and the wine thief doesnt fit!
I just got one of those barrels too. I didn't even have a wine thief but I just got one of these from Midwest. Looks pretty fragile...I'll have to be careful. It will take at least 3 'dunks' to get enough for my hydro tube (I dunno why I measured that...these samples are for tasting).

In a pinch you can always use a racking cane or similar.
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Old 12-08-2009, 05:55 PM   #7
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Piece of sanitized tubing, dip into barrel, put thumb over end?
I have one of those barrels, too. I have not tried taking samples yet.

 
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Old 12-08-2009, 07:50 PM   #8
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I would like to just sample through the bung hole, but some say it is taboo to disrupt the pellicle.

I know Russian River uses SS nails for sampling mid way down the barrel. Cascade Brewing in the NW uses spiles that can be pulled out to easily sample the beer.

So with those two breweries sampling through the side of the barrel, I thought it sounded like a good idea.

The barrels are 60 gallon, 2004's used for white wine in Sonoma.

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Old 12-08-2009, 09:36 PM   #9
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Just drill bigger and bigger until the nail can be driven in with a light tap of the hammer. Baby steps.
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Old 12-09-2009, 07:35 PM   #10
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I'm fairly certain that RR does that for his sour beers, becuase he is not worried about potential contanimation at that point. But if you want to sample beer, you have to have access to the bung anyway to do top offs. So I would say that unless this is for lambics, I woudl use a wine thief.



 
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