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Old 12-06-2009, 03:08 PM   #1
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I am making a honey-nut brown ale shortly, and am currently tweaking the recipe. I am contemplating throwing a box of honey-nut cheerios into the mash. I am assuming it will convert, as it is simply starches, and there are a lot of simple sugars in it already.

Have any HBTers ever done something like this? Am I setting myself up for a stuck mash?
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Old 12-06-2009, 03:13 PM   #2
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Search Post Apocalyptic Brewing. There was a challenge this past year or last year about brewing with ingredients only from the grocery store. This had a lot of info about using cereals and which ones could and could work. I wouldn't expect any honey nut flavor though.
Basic Brewing Radio/Video did a Frankenberry Mash and all color and flavor was stripped during mashing/fermenting. Beer turned out golden with 0 flavor from the cereal. I imagine the Cheerios would be the same.
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Old 12-06-2009, 03:15 PM   #3
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You might be better off using some honey malt and oats. I'm not sure I'd want all that extra stuff found in cereal in my mash.

 
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Search Post Apocalyptic Brewing. There was a challenge this past year or last year about brewing with ingredients only from the grocery store. This had a lot of info about using cereals and which ones could and could work. I wouldn't expect any honey nut flavor though.
Basic Brewing Radio/Video did a Frankenberry Mash and all color and flavor was stripped during mashing/fermenting. Beer turned out golden with 0 flavor from the cereal. I imagine the Cheerios would be the same.
You mean this?

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/gap-...rocery+Produce
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:01 AM   #7
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If it validates your idea at all, I had been thinking of doing a Honey Nut Cheerio nut brown once I go all grain. So either "great minds think alike" or "fools seldom differ."

I was inspired by a guy in my homebrew club who made a Crunchberry Wheat. The flavors from the cereal came through but they weren't overwhelming. I think he used one box of Cap'n Crunchberry in his mash, but I'm not certain.
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:07 AM   #8
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Out of curiosity, what would ascorbic acid, high fructose corn syrup, iron, and the other normal "slurry" coatings on a cereal do to your mash.

I used to work for General Mills in a cereal plant, and having some idea of the processing and ingredients that happen to make the cereal, I wouldn't think you would get a lot of good out of the cereal.

Short overview is the ingredients are mixed, extruded, par-baked then steam-popped in a puffing gun (imagine steam powered popcorn popper at hundreds of psi), dried to negligible moisture and coated with sugar and vitamins for flavor.

I guess to sum up, I wouldn't think that there would be any thing left to ferment after all that, except for the added sugar.

Just my 0.02....
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:36 AM   #9
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Thank you all for your replies, they have been helpful. To sum thing up, I guess I'm not really looking for many fermentables out of the cheerios, I'm just looking for some of the flavor to carry through into the final product. From what I'm seeing, I might be best to mash them last and add them at the end of the boil? Or - here's a question for you Islagi - are cereals sanitized enough that I could add them in the fermenter?
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Well, you do eat them direct out of the box with milk, right?

But seriously...After they are coated, they are dried again, and air conveyed to be packaged, in a grain dust environment.

I would assume that even though the grains are cooked, there is enough fugitive dust in the plant that a lacto infection is a very real possibility.

let us know, if you decide to go ahead. I would be interested to see how it turns out.
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