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Old 12-04-2009, 10:02 PM   #1
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Default APA Recipe, any suggestions?

15.38 lbs. American 2-row info
2 lbs. American Caramel 80L
1.75 lbs. Midwest Wheat Malt
1.00 lbs. Flaked Barley
1.5 oz. Cascade (Pellets, 6.4 %AA) boiled 60 min.
1.5 oz. Cascade (Pellets, 6.4 %AA) boiled 45 min.
1.0 oz. Cascade (Pellets, 6.4 %AA) boiled 30 min.
1.0 oz. Cascade (Pellets, 6.4 %AA) boiled 15 min.
1.5 oz. Cascade (Pellets, 6.4 %AA) boiled 1 min.
Yeast : White Labs WLP001 California Ale

Original gravity 1.056
Final 1.013
Mash efficiency 75%
43 IBUs
5.7% ABV
4.4% ABW

Any thoughs or suggestions here?

My favorite beer currently is Schlafly's Dry Hopped APA...so if it came even remotely close to that, I'd be thrilled. I figured I'd dry hope this one as well.


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Old 12-04-2009, 10:16 PM   #2
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Looks pretty good. I don't know if it'll be close to Schflay's, but I think it'll be a good beer! Here's one my house pale ales, which I think is very similar (5.25 gallon batch, though):

7 lbs Pale Malt Grain
3 lbs Vienna Malt
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L

1.00 oz Cascade [7.50 %] (60 min) (First Wort Hop)
0.50 oz Cascade [7.50 %] (30 min)
0.50 oz Cascade [7.50 %] (15 min)
1.00 oz Cascade (homegrown) [6.30 %] (10 min)
0.50 oz Cascade (homegrown) [6.30 %] (5 min)
0.50 oz Cascade (homegrown) [6.30 %] (0 min)

1.00 oz Cascade [8.00 %] (Dry Hop 7 days)

OG 1.055 IBUs 46 FG 1.010


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My opinion is that all that wheat and flaked barley is out of place. If you really need to keep them, I'd suggest dropping the flaked barley all together and dropping the wheat malt to a half pound.
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:24 PM   #4
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I definitely plan to dry hop with some cascade...maybe 1.5oz.

On my local homebrew club, I've been told that I may be overshooting the amount of Caramel 80L. I'm rather new at all grain and am wondering if I should take it down to 1lb of 80L rather than 2. I'm not a big fan of really caramel beers...ala Budweiser American Ale (one example I figure everybody has at least tried).

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Well, a pound of crystal per 5 gallons isn't really out of place but you could lower it a bit if you want. What might be better is to "mix it up" a bit- use .75 pound of 20L and .75 pound of 80L, or something like that. It will add some complexity and interest to the grain bill.
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My opinion is that all that wheat and flaked barley is out of place. If you really need to keep them, I'd suggest dropping the flaked barley all together and dropping the wheat malt to a half pound.
I saw both in a couple of different APA's that seemed to get pretty good reviews all around, so I figured I'd add it in. However, if the concensus says that they are completely useless or actually detremental, then I'm more than fine with dropping both.

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Well, a pound of crystal per 5 gallons isn't really out of place but you could lower it a bit if you want. What might be better is to "mix it up" a bit- use .75 pound of 20L and .75 pound of 80L, or something like that. It will add some complexity and interest to the grain bill.

That will work. I actually have some of both the 80L and the 20L...and that sounds better than using just the stronger 80L.
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I saw both in a couple of different APA's that seemed to get pretty good reviews all around, so I figured I'd add it in. However, if the concensus says that they are completely useless or actually detremental, then I'm more than fine with dropping both.

Thanks for the help.
I don't know, to be honest. I've never used either (don't like wheat beers anyway, so I know I wouldn't miss it!) in an APA but I don't know if it's useless. It'll give you head retention, but possibly some haze.
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15.38 lbs. American 2-row info
2 lbs. American Caramel 80L
1.75 lbs. Midwest Wheat Malt
1.00 lbs. Flaked Barley
1.5 oz. Cascade (Pellets, 6.4 %AA) boiled 60 min.
1.5 oz. Cascade (Pellets, 6.4 %AA) boiled 45 min.
1.0 oz. Cascade (Pellets, 6.4 %AA) boiled 30 min.
1.0 oz. Cascade (Pellets, 6.4 %AA) boiled 15 min.
1.5 oz. Cascade (Pellets, 6.4 %AA) boiled 1 min.
Yeast : White Labs WLP001 California Ale

Original gravity 1.056
Final 1.013
Mash efficiency 75%
43 IBUs
5.7% ABV
4.4% ABW

Any thoughs or suggestions here?

My favorite beer currently is Schlafly's Dry Hopped APA...so if it came even remotely close to that, I'd be thrilled. I figured I'd dry hope this one as well.
You don't say how many gallons you are making. If it's 5 or 5.5 gallons, it would be much higher in O.G and alcohol than you list here. So I'm guessing it's 10 to 11 gallons. It'd be a double IPA range otherwise.

With the 80 caramel, I guess you're going for a little darkness and then are upping the body with the Barley. It's normally done in a stout or higher alcohol beer rather than a pale, but might be interesting.
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I'm doing a 10 gallon batch...sorry.


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