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Old 12-02-2009, 03:02 PM   #1
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The day I got married, following our wedding reception, we visited the Hopcat in Grand Rapids, MI. As we were still in wedding apparel, our waitress wanted to help us celebrate and treated me to this beer. Naturally, I'd like to make something close for at home since Lagunitas isn't selling the stuff anymore.
So....knowing only that it is "wheatyesque," OG 1.076, ABV 7.3%, IBU 64.20, color pale/golden, moderately caramelly, and filled with American-style hops (many mention grapefruit in the flavor), I'm gonna give it a shot:

82% Efficiency
72.4% AA
5.25 Gallons

6.5 lbs 2-Row
6 lbs White Wheat
1 lb Crystal 40L
Mash 154F for 60 Min

1 oz Simcoe (13%) 60 min
1 oz Cascade (6%) 5 min
1 oz Amarillo (8%) 5 min

Ferment at 65F (finishing at 70F) with 2 packets S-04

Any suggestions to help me get closer?
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Old 12-02-2009, 04:21 PM   #2
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Looks good, but considering adding more late hops to it. I have not had that beer, but I assume that if its filled with American style hops, it has quite the hop flavor and aroma. The cascade and amarillo are great for the citrus/grapefruit note and consider adding some at flameout and then dryhopping too.
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Old 12-02-2009, 07:49 PM   #3
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This beer is fantastic. I agree with chode on more late hop additions. The aroma on this beer was awesome. Adding some simcoe to the end of the boil would definitely be appropriate IMO. Keep us updated on this one as I'd love to brew it up myself.
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Old 12-03-2009, 05:17 PM   #4
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This beer is fantastic. I agree with chode on more late hop additions. The aroma on this beer was awesome. Adding some simcoe to the end of the boil would definitely be appropriate IMO. Keep us updated on this one as I'd love to brew it up myself.
I would add an ounce of cascade and an ounce of the amarillo to a dry hop for 7 days. Really load up on those grapefruit/citrus hops!
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Old 12-03-2009, 05:26 PM   #5
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Cluster is the hop that tastes the most like grapefruit. Simcoe tastes like pine.

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Old 12-03-2009, 05:42 PM   #6
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I regularly brew something very similar - however, I use all Columbus, and ferment with Safale US-05.

Mine was inspired by Southern Tier's Hop Sun (which is all Centennial): http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a17...Sun_Detail.gif
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Old 12-03-2009, 05:47 PM   #7
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i thought i tasted a little floral and earthiness under the citrus flavor but that was quite a while ago.

i think you'll need something besides just citrusy hops.

this is what some other lagunitas hop schedules look like (according to the can you brew it recipes).

Brown shugga

44g Willamette 4.1% @ 90min
10g Nuggets 12.7% @ 45min
31g Willamette 4.1% @ 45min
3.5g Nuggets 12.7% @ 1min
11g Liberty 4.5% @ 1min
22.5g Centennial 8% @ 1min

21g Cascade 6.5% @ Dry Hop
21g Centennial 8% @ Dry Hop
21g Liberty 4.5% @ Dry Hop

Censored Ale

27g Willamette 4.6% @ 60min
4.6g Horizon 12% @ 60min
16g Willamette 4.6% @ 30min
2.3g Centennial 9% @ 30min
4.6g Cascade 5.75% @ 30min
9g Centennial 9% @ 1 min
9g Liberty 4% @ 1 min

Lagunitas IPA

4g Summit 18.5% @ 60min
10g Horizon 12% @ 60min
23g Willamette 4.75% @ 30min
11.4g Centennial 10% @ 30min
34g Cascade 5.75% @ 1min
21g Cascade 5.75% @ Dry Hop
21g Centennial 9% @ Dry Hop

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I would consider moving .5 oz of the cascade and .5 oz the amarillo to first wort.

FWH .5 oz cascade, .5 oz amarillo, .5 oz simcoe

20 minutes .5 oz cascade
15 minutes .5 oz amarillo
10 minues .5 oz simcoe


this will get you good hop flavor and aroma, but I think you should also dry hop with at least Amarillo and Cascade....but all three would be oh so nice.

I didn't plug these numbers into beersmith or anything, so I don't know the IBU's but I would assume 60 ish.
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Old 12-05-2009, 05:09 AM   #9
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I remember listening to the Jamil show and he discussed a few Lagunitas recipes with the head brewer. I think they mash all their beers around 160F. I know it sounds a little extreme, but if you drink any of their other beers, they all have a similar sweetness to them.
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Old 12-05-2009, 05:20 AM   #10
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and btw, they still sell this beer in stores.
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