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Old 12-01-2009, 08:40 PM   #1
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Default Cost difference betwen AG and extract brewing?

I was playing around with recipes on Brewmaster's Brew Builder and if I'm not mistaken it appears that AG brewing is a little cheaper than brewing with extract. Is this correct for the most part?

If so, I would imagine that the cost of setting up for AG brewing may be offset by the lower cost of ingredients over time. Hmmmmn.......


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Old 12-01-2009, 08:42 PM   #2
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I was playing around with recipes on Brewmaster's Brew Builder and if I'm not mistaken it appears that AG brewing is a little cheaper than brewing with extract. Is this correct for the most part?

If so, I would imagine that the cost of setting up for AG brewing may be offset by the lower cost of ingredients over time. Hmmmmn.......
Its not a little cheaper, its a lot cheaper, as long as you're buying in bulk.


I made 5G of a mild the other day, and I think the ingredient cost was about $7. When I was buying extract kits, they were $30+


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Do a search and/or check out the similar threads at the bottom of this page. It seams that this has been discussed with some intensity is the recent past.

Straight fact is that the grain for all grain is cheaper then the malt extract equivalents. But all the other raw materials required to make beer are the same price.

There is more equipment required to brew all grain but the cost of that equipment can vary significantly.
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Depending on what type of equipment you get for All Grain, you can offset prices very quickly. You don't need the fancy single tier systems with pumps and whatnot to do an all grain batch.

With the brew in a bag all grain setups, all you need are a burner, an 5G paint strainer bag and a large enough pot to boil the wort.

Add bulk purchases of grain and hops to that and my average 1.045OG batch comes in a little under $14, including yeast.
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Its not a little cheaper, its a lot cheaper, as long as you're buying in bulk.


I made 5G of a mild the other day, and I think the ingredient cost was about $7. When I was buying extract kits, they were $30+
I'm gonna call BS on this one. There are plenty of extract kits for under 30.00 just like there are all grain kits that cost more then 30.00.

You could just as easily buy bulk extract and brew the same mild for only slightly more then the all grain.
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I agree that all grain is considerable cheaper for the ingredients but it seems like I am spending above and beyond any ingredient savings on equipment daily. I am slowly trying to build a single tier system and it is not cheap.
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ya, going all grain is expensive because of the equipment. Not to mention the other variables - energy, time, sordid obsession development, etc.

I honestly think the best value might be partial mash (because you dont have to do full boils)...
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I'm gonna call BS on this one. There are plenty of extract kits for under 30.00 just like there are all grain kits that cost more then 30.00.

You could just as easily buy bulk extract and brew the same mild for only slightly more then the all grain.
Who said all extract kits were over $30, and all AG kits were less than that? The guy was speaking from his own experience.

Overall, doing similar recipes with each, AG will be significantly cheaper than extract, especially if you're buying hops and grain in bulk, and reusing yeast. I can easily see a low-OG, low-IBU brew costing around $7.00.
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I'm gonna call BS on this one. There are plenty of extract kits for under 30.00 just like there are all grain kits that cost more then 30.00.

You could just as easily buy bulk extract and brew the same mild for only slightly more then the all grain.
I haven't seen too many extract kits for under $30 including shipping AND yeast(unless you use a dry yeast pack).
I keep seeing these deals and thinking I should go for that. Then I see that you have to add the yeast and it ups the price by 8-9 bucks. Plus shipping...
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Who said all extract kits were over $30, and all AG kits were less than that? The guy was speaking from his own experience.

Overall, doing similar recipes with each, AG will be significantly cheaper than extract, especially if you're buying hops and grain in bulk, and reusing yeast. I can easily see a low-OG, low-IBU brew costing around $7.00.
And I could see the same beer made with bulk extract costing 10.00. So were talking about a theoretical 3.00 difference. That's not a big difference in my book.

Further more, if you went to brew a very hoppy beer, the fairly meager price difference shrinks.


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