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Old 11-30-2009, 10:15 PM   #1
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I'm a visual person, and just found this infographic about hops and was curious if there was something similar out there about Grains? Not really sure what info it would show (SRM, etc?) but just curious if anyone has seen anything out there like this;

http://zekeshore.com/hops_v1.12.png


On a side note, if no one knows anything like the above pic, would there be interest in me putting one together? And if so please post below what information you'd like it to show.

I feel that stuff like the above pic would be useful to have when trying to formulate a new recipe but I would need to know what characteristics of a grain people look at when determining one grain over another.

Or maybe people just follow recipes blindly they find online and it's not really needed.

anyway, i'm rambling. Let me know if any of that made sense and it worth some time investment. Thanks,

 
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:30 PM   #2
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Wow, that's a great graphic. It would be very interesting to see a similar visual guide to grains, but you'd have to develop a similar multi-part division that is quantifiable. Perhaps if we came up with general categories, then a graphic designer could generate the art?

Here are some ideas:

PPG (in decreasing value on the X-scale)
Lovibond rating (on bottom half of Y-scale, probably going to go in increasing direction, as darker malts are less fermentable)
Recommended Max % of recipe the grain should compose (on top half of Y-scale, again generally decreasing trend left to right)
Sub-indicators of top half of Y-scale:
-> Sweetness
-> Roastiness
-> Bitterness
-> Affect on head retention/lacing

What would some other useful things be?
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Old 12-01-2009, 01:11 AM   #3
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Yeah, I'd be more than up to do doing the art if I could get help with the categories. I've done a bit of Photoshop/Illustrator work before and feel I could do something similar.

I'd be happy to post it here as a PDF if people were interested.

 
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Old 12-01-2009, 03:43 AM   #4
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is there a way to quantify the sweetness or lacing? Otherwise I'd just have to denote which grain did or didn't add that character.

 
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Old 12-01-2009, 07:06 AM   #5
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I started working on how things like that might be quantified, and I haven't come up with a way yet. Interestingly, the descriptions of Crystal 20, Crystal 40, Crystal 60, etc, say things like "Slightly more color and flavor than the Caramel 20 malt."

Here's a good text reference for the descriptions:
http://www.learntobrew.com/page/1fbc...les_Chart.html

Now, how can we display this visually?
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Old 12-01-2009, 05:31 PM   #6
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Have you seen this? I find this information very useful, although maybe not in the form you request.

 
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Old 12-01-2009, 06:44 PM   #7
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Yeah, I'm basically taking that information and going to format it more visually.

I actually have an idea on how I plan on doing this so unless anyone has any additional information they think would be helpful to display I'm going to start working on this tonight after SWMBO goes to bed.

I'll try and throw up an update by next Monday. Cheers!

 
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Old 12-02-2009, 12:55 AM   #9
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I look forward to seeing what you come up with, n-geek!
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Old 12-12-2009, 05:45 AM   #10
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That would be incredibly helpful. That is the first time I saw that hop graphic and a grain version would be equally amazing! Good luck to you.
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