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Old 11-26-2009, 04:43 PM   #1
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Just curious, I am going to do Edworts exact recipe(with the Montrachet yeast). I was wondering at what temps. does this need to ferment?? I want to keep it in my basement due to the "RHINO" farts I have heard about.

My basement right now is in the low 60's, after the fart phase I can always move it upstairs where it will be no cooler than 65 till' spring.

I just figured I would post this here because it would get more traffic. If it has to get moved I will understand.

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Old 11-26-2009, 05:07 PM   #2
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If you are going to do the recipe to the exact then make sure the yeast that you use can take the temps that are in your basement. I for one think you should be alright. You might not get a real active fermentation and it should take a little while longer due the the cool temps. Good luck. I did the recipe but used Wyeast 3068 (Wheat Yeast) with it. It has been in the keg aging for 8 months now. I plan on serving it around the 1st of the year.

 
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Old 11-26-2009, 05:11 PM   #3
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If you are going to do the recipe to the exact then make sure the yeast that you use can take the temps that are in your basement. I for one think you should be alright. You might not get a real active fermentation and it should take a little while longer due the the cool temps. Good luck. I did the recipe but used Wyeast 3068 (Wheat Yeast) with it. It has been in the keg aging for 8 months now. I plan on serving it around the 1st of the year.
Thanks, thats pretty much what I am wondering about(the temps)...Good luck with yours.

 
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Old 11-26-2009, 05:56 PM   #4
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Be prepared for a loooong fermentation at those temps. Mine has been sitting at 60-63 for almost 5 weeks now, and the airlock is still bubbling a couple times a minute.

I used his exact recipe as well.

 
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Old 11-26-2009, 06:17 PM   #5
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Be prepared for a loooong fermentation at those temps. Mine has been sitting at 60-63 for almost 5 weeks now, and the airlock is still bubbling a couple times a minute.

I used his exact recipe as well.
I am in no rush, I actually plan on carbing it after it's done fermenting, and letting it bottle condition until summer.

I googled that yeast and saw a couple of links that said it was good from 50 degree to 86 degrees. 50 sounds awfully low to me, but I don't know much about it.

 
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Old 11-26-2009, 07:00 PM   #6
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Wine yeast (such as the Montrachet) has a huge operating range, because our enologist brethren are somewhat like the Belgians in their tweaking of temps during a ferment. My uncle is a pro winemaker and he does these cold ferments at 52, ramping the temps up to the upper 70's over a four week period, to develop different flavors without using wood. It's crazy.

Bottom line, you're gonna be fine, if slow. It'll still smell like the southbound-end of a northbound Rhino.
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Old 11-26-2009, 08:26 PM   #7
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Bottom line, you're gonna be fine, if slow. It'll still smell like the southbound-end of a northbound Rhino.
That's Funny!

 
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:45 PM   #8
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I made my first batch of apfelwein with ambient temperatures of around 64-65, and didn't notice any off odors at all, but it did seem to take a couple of weeks longer for it to clear. I followed the recipe exactly, w/ montrachet and 2# dextrose. I've also read that adding some yeast nutrients will prevent the rhino farts.

 
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Old 11-26-2009, 11:09 PM   #9
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I made my first batch of apfelwein with ambient temperatures of around 64-65, and didn't notice any off odors at all, but it did seem to take a couple of weeks longer for it to clear. I followed the recipe exactly, w/ montrachet and 2# dextrose. I've also read that adding some yeast nutrients will prevent the rhino farts.
Did you add the yeast nutrients?? If so what did you use? Thanks.

 
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Old 11-26-2009, 11:27 PM   #10
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Hmmm... thinking a bit about this, I wonder if the rhino farts are caused by stressing out the yeast, since the OG of the apfelwein can be fairly high and we usually only pitch one packet of yeast. Perhaps pitching two packets, and adding in some yeast nutrient, would make a difference? Not as simple as the given recipe, but certainly not a real challenging change, either...

I'm just spitballing here, folks.

My plan is to actually use Red Star Cote des Blancs yeast in my next batch, which I am scheduled to begin in a few weeks. There is such a thing as too much apfelwein, folks: I have just over 3 gallons serving in my kegerator, and another 5 in the carboy that will be ready to serve at Christmas. I figure if I start a new batch every 3-4 weeks, that will keep the apfelwein pipeline full!
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