9 Liter Yeast Starter? - Home Brew Forums
Register Now For Free!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Fermentation & Yeast > 9 Liter Yeast Starter?

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-16-2009, 05:21 PM   #1
tgentry2
Recipes 
 
Nov 2009
Kankakee, IL
Posts: 6


Has anyone ever heard of using a 9 Liter Yeast Starter? This would be near 3 gallons of a yeast starter.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2009, 05:24 PM   #2
rsmith179
 
rsmith179's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Feb 2009
Cleveland, OH
Posts: 934
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts


People use different sized yeast starters for all sorts of different beers. The larger the beer, the larger the starter. I have personally never made a 2.5 gallon starter, but I know that 1 gallon starters are very common here on HBT. Why exactly do you feel you need a 9L starter?
__________________
"Brewers enjoy working to make beer as much as drinking beer instead of working."
-Harold Rudolph

 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2009, 05:28 PM   #3
tgentry2
Recipes 
 
Nov 2009
Kankakee, IL
Posts: 6

This is from BYO recipe from last month's magazine. They claim that the proper pitch rate is 4 packages of liquid yeast or a 9 Liter starter. The recipe is for a 5 gallon batch.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2009, 05:38 PM   #4
erock2112
Recipes 
 
Jul 2009
Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 312
Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts


You're not pouring in 9 liters of liquid though... when you do a larger starter, pour off the spent starter wort and use some new wort to get the yeast cake out of the starter container and into your fermentor. This way, you aren't diluting your wort with lower gravity starter wort. That said, 9 liters sounds huge. Not sure what kind of beer would necessitate that.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2009, 05:46 PM   #5
Scimmia
Recipes 
 
Oct 2007
QCA, Iowa
Posts: 959
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts


High gravity beer with a "simple starter", that seems very reasonable. Some people just make a smaller beer and use that as a starter, some will use a stir plate which allows you to use a much smaller starter. In this case, a 9 liter starter becomes a 3.4 liter starter.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2009, 06:03 PM   #6
tgentry2
Recipes 
 
Nov 2009
Kankakee, IL
Posts: 6

It's a Bohemian Pilsner. I guess I'll make the 9 liter starter and rack off the wort and pour the new wort on top of the yeast cake.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2009, 06:56 PM   #7
tgentry2
Recipes 
 
Nov 2009
Kankakee, IL
Posts: 6

I have never done this large of a starter before. The starter is almost the same size as the batch itself. I have a couple of questions here if someone could help:

1) Since I am planning to remove the wort and just use the yeast cake how long would you let this ferment as a yeast starter?

2) As this is a lager would you ferment your yeast starter at lagering temperatures?

Thanks.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2009, 07:38 PM   #8
JKoravos
Recipes 
 
Jul 2009
Chelmsford, MA
Posts: 1,203
Liked 74 Times on 55 Posts


I've made a 8-9 L starter before. Then I never ended up using it. That was kind of a bummer. I just never got around to brewing the batch.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2009, 08:03 PM   #9
noblesquirrel
Recipes 
 
Oct 2009
Chicago, IL
Posts: 240
Liked 21 Times on 18 Posts


perhaps it's a typo and should have been a .9 liter (one quart) starter...
__________________
Brian-BJCP Grand Master/Mead Judge
HOPS! Homebrewers' Pride of the Southside
Current: Mead-Blackcurrant, Coffee Metheglin, Vanilla Chile Metheglin, Mojito, Macadamia Blossom Trad, Carrot Mead, Grapefruit Ginger, Dry Tupelo Trad, Elderberry. Beer- Exportbier, Am. Brown Ale, Märzenbier, RIS, Doppelbock, Mosaic-Golden Promis SMASH, Bramling Cross Strong Bitter

 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2009, 09:14 PM   #10
Scimmia
Recipes 
 
Oct 2007
QCA, Iowa
Posts: 959
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts


http://www.mrmalty.com/calc/calc.html

Play around with it. Even shaking once in a while makes a big difference on how big of a starter you need.

1. Long enough to ferment out. A few days usually does it.
2. No. If it's just a starter, the off flavors from higher temps don't matter, and the yeast will be more active at higher temps.

 
Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
3 Liter Starter? woollybugger2 Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 4 04-28-2009 03:01 PM
How Much Washed Yeast to Use for 1 Liter Starter? Jewrican General Techniques 6 01-22-2009 02:22 AM
2 Liter Bottle for Yeast Starter? Cpt_Kirks Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 4 12-18-2008 06:40 PM
Yeast starter in a 2 liter blk94f150 General Beer Discussion 5 11-03-2008 09:59 PM
2 Liter Soda Bottle for Starter? Stevorino All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 6 05-03-2008 11:56 AM


Forum Jump