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Old 12-14-2009, 07:04 PM   #31
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I got a price of $1.55 a lb. at the local bakery. I have no idea what the quality is. I have not used it yet. It comes in the 5 G bucket and says Wildflower Honey on it, which I think just means they have no idea and no control. I think it's worth trying at least.

I might just try 2.5 gallons to start though. I would hate to waste all that honey on a mistake. I've never done any kind of wine before (save for Ed's Apfelwein), so we'll see how it goes.


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Old 12-14-2009, 08:01 PM   #32
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One other note - "baker's honey" is also often not in the "usual" range of sugar concentration - often it is lower in sugar and higher in water content. This will have two effects on your mead. First, it can skew your recipe amounts a bit. Second, it can more readily "go off" since diluted honey doesn't have the same antimicrobial properties as does full concentration honey.

Baker's honey is a crap shoot, and for me, with as much work as I put into a batch of mead, it isn't worth the risk. Still, if your budget is very tight, making mead out of honey that you can afford is far better than making no mead at all! Just keep in mind that it may not turn out as an award winner -- it may not even turn out consistently from batch to batch.



 
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:18 PM   #33
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I'm new to the forums (and to mead making) and just wanted to echo what was said in some earlier post here - this is a great site with tons of information. I've already learned a lot just reading for a few minutes.

One question about using bulk honey - If I were to buy a 5 gallon bucket of honey, what is the best way to work with it? I mean, how would I accurately measure, say 18 lbs for a recipe (or whatever amount). With a gallon jug, if I want 12 lbs, I dump the whole thing in. Can't very well do that with a 60 lb bucket.

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Old 12-15-2009, 09:58 PM   #34
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I'm new to the forums (and to mead making) and just wanted to echo what was said in some earlier post here - this is a great site with tons of information. I've already learned a lot just reading for a few minutes.

One question about using bulk honey - If I were to buy a 5 gallon bucket of honey, what is the best way to work with it? I mean, how would I accurately measure, say 18 lbs for a recipe (or whatever amount). With a gallon jug, if I want 12 lbs, I dump the whole thing in. Can't very well do that with a 60 lb bucket.

Thanks again for the awesome site!
Well I have a scale around my kitchen that i throw a bowl or pot on then zero, and put however much in I need. I think I got mine off amazon for like 20-30$ and it has been well worth it as it is helpful not only for wine and beer making (hops spices etc) but also for serving sizes for meals.

 
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One other note - "baker's honey" is also often not in the "usual" range of sugar concentration - often it is lower in sugar and higher in water content. This will have two effects on your mead. First, it can skew your recipe amounts a bit. Second, it can more readily "go off" since diluted honey doesn't have the same antimicrobial properties as does full concentration honey.

Baker's honey is a crap shoot, and for me, with as much work as I put into a batch of mead, it isn't worth the risk. Still, if your budget is very tight, making mead out of honey that you can afford is far better than making no mead at all! Just keep in mind that it may not turn out as an award winner -- it may not even turn out consistently from batch to batch.
Well, I'm not exactly tight for money, per se, but I would like to give it a go and not spend much trying. I know very little about honey and mead. I have tried a couple and enjoyed them. Not as much as beer, but better than wine.

I don't aspire to make great mead at this time, and very likely wouldn't know the difference anyway.
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Old 12-20-2009, 01:25 AM   #36
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honey is 12 pounds to a gal , 12 ounce to a cup , 1 1/2 cup to a pound ,, 60 pounds to 5 gals ,, for mead most do 15 pounds mixed with water to make 5 gals ,,
for buying honey , google your state beekeeping clubs ,, they will have a member that will have honey ,,

"baker's honey" is also often not in the "usual" range of sugar concentration - often it is lower in sugar and higher in water content.

all honey has about the same sweetness ,, but if honey has a water content higher then 17% it forments ,,and even the bees don't take it .. bakers honey may be from china or some other place , and or mixed with corn syurp .. honey is shipped from one countryto another to get around treifs , this is why some countrys ex port more honey then is produced in that country .. the US is working on a bill , some states have it as law now , called the honey bill ,, if you want to read what it is about google it and you will find it . it says honey that is sold as honey, has to be pure honey ,, and any thing that has honey in its name has to have honey in it ,, as now some products have honey in the name , but no honey in the product ..
I don't want to sound like a smart a## the first time I post , but I'm a beekeeper ,,this is why I am so up on honey ..
I'll get off the soap box now ..

 
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honey is 12 pounds to a gal , 12 ounce to a cup , 1 1/2 cup to a pound ,, 60 pounds to 5 gals ,, for mead most do 15 pounds mixed with water to make 5 gals
Numbers to live by

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"baker's honey" is also often not in the "usual" range of sugar concentration - often it is lower in sugar and higher in water content.
And also commonly filtered into submission all to increase solubility and ease of use.

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the US is working on a bill , some states have it as law now , called the honey bill.

Many states have no definition of what honey is, so anyone can put anything in a jar and call it honey, It looks like honey, but in fact it’s high fructose corn syrup. Under the new bill, only pure honey could be labeled as such. Honey imported from China and elsewhere is often cut with corn syrup, undercutting the price of pure honey and increased pesticide use on farms has beekeepers losing large percentages of their colonies. Unfortunately bill
HB 159, cross filed with SB 193, which will help with all of this, was heard in the House of Delegates last year, but went back to the drawing board for technical errors.


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I don't want to sound like a smart a## the first time I post , but I'm a beekeeper ,,this is why I am so up on honey ..
I'll get off the soap box now ..
It's easy to share information and on this forum very much welcomed without sounding like a smart%$$, welcome to HBT, look forward to hearing more about your bees.
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Old 06-25-2014, 10:36 AM   #39
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Who has everyone dealt with?
I was looking to purchase from here as it was the best price I could find. Anyone with any experience with them?

My local guy only sells some sort of wildflower blend he wont specify and I can only buy 1 gallon at a time for 2.5$ a lb. He also said he wont be selling even in the gallon bulk til the spring when he has a new harvest so I will be s.o.l.
$148.00 / 60lbs = $2.46 / lb. You'll save anywhere from 60 cents to $2.00, depending on local prices & availability. They don't mention shipping prices, but I doubt they have free shipping, you'll have to include that in your total cost. Odds are that the shipping will eat up any savings you get on the actual price of the honey & then some.

If you can find the variety of honey you want locally for under $3 / lb, I'd go with that. Otherwise you're sort of forced to either drive to get it or have it shipped to you. At least having it shipped (most likely) gives you a much better selection of varietals to choose from. Face it, unless you have your own bee hive, honey ain't cheap.

I can get local wildflower honey in bulk (33lbs or more), for about $1.79 / lb, but I only use that for melomels as it has a rather generic honey flavour. So for me, it's cheap & generic vs more expensive & varietal. Both have their pros & cons. But no matter what, one way or another, you have to pay to play.
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Old 06-27-2014, 07:46 PM   #40
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i've put together a spreadsheet with info on various online honey sellers: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f30/pric...dsheet-442301/


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