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Old 10-30-2009, 11:35 PM   #1
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It's my first time making hard cider, and I've been doing a lot of reading so my first experience doesn't turn out horribly. I noticed how helpful this forum seems to be to newcomers, so I figured I'd ask a few questions.

I've seen quite a few "How To"s and several recommend adding yeast nutrient. How necessary is this to get fermentation started? I'll be using store bought cider. [pasteurized, no preservatives]

Also, any recommendations on yeasts for a first-timer? Most "How To"s said RedStar Champagne yeast, but as I've seen around this forum, most people use others. I noticed a few people prefer Nottingham Ale yeast?

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Old 10-31-2009, 12:07 AM   #2

this may help some with the yeast - http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f32/resu...riments-83060/


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Old 10-31-2009, 12:37 AM   #3
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Thanks JLem! I actually read a bit of that one, but after reading the whole thing now I think I'll buy a few of his favorite yeasts and try them all eventually. As for the nutrients, is it necessary?

 
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Old 10-31-2009, 02:32 AM   #4

I don't know. I used some in my first batch and it fermented well. I did not use any in my second batch and it's been fermenting just fine, but then again, I haven't checked its gravity yet so I don't know how well the fermentation is going.

My gut tells me that it is not necessary, but I have no empirical evidence to back that up.
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Old 10-31-2009, 04:01 AM   #5
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If you want some residual sweetness, adding nutrients works against you.

 
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Old 10-31-2009, 04:16 AM   #6
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ive never used nutrients, my airlock useualy only takes 12-24 hrs to start bubbling. For yeast I like Safale 04

 
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Old 10-31-2009, 05:19 AM   #7
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^^^ do you ferment the safale at the regular ale temps?

 
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Old 10-31-2009, 01:36 PM   #8
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^^^ do you ferment the safale at the regular ale temps?
or a little lower actually. 50-60F works well. the fermentation will be slower, but it will finish less dry, especially if you cold crash it at a desired SG (usually around 1.010 is good). Overall, it seems to produce a superior product at or under 60F.
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Old 10-31-2009, 02:34 PM   #9
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I dont use nutrient and my stuff always turns out nice.

and +1 on on low fermentation temp. 60 works great with S04 or Notty.
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Old 10-31-2009, 08:40 PM   #10
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Wow, thanks a lot, very helpful! I think I'll skip the nutrients this time, maybe experiment with them down the road just for shiggles. I'm going to use Notty for my first batch and champagne yeast for my second.



 
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