electric brewing and temp controls - Home Brew Forums

Register Now!
Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > DIY Projects > Brew Stands > electric brewing and temp controls

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-30-2009, 02:38 AM   #1
jakeshivers
Recipes 
 
Oct 2009
Denver
Posts: 36


hey all,

I'm getting ready to build an electric rig. I know nothing about electricity, or temp controllers. Can someone give me a tutorial on how these gadgets work?



http://www.auberins.com/index.php?ma...=index&cPath=1


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2009, 03:04 AM   #2
Pangea
Recipes 
 
Apr 2009
Lafayette, LA
Posts: 312
Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts


Wow. Dude that's a huge tutorial you're asking for. I suggest searching posts with "PID" or "SSR" first.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2009, 03:06 AM   #3
jakeshivers
Recipes 
 
Oct 2009
Denver
Posts: 36

Cliffnotes?

 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2009, 03:06 AM   #4
The Pol
Recipes 
 
Feb 2007
Posts: 11,454
Liked 96 Times on 81 Posts


Yeah... I have some threads on E-HERMS building and the use of PIDs and SSRs.

But yah, that is A LOT of information you are looking for, Id start with the search function.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2009, 06:27 PM   #5
eccsynd
control freak
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
eccsynd's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Apr 2008
Minnesota
Posts: 172
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts


If you're not totally set on the auber PIDs, here's a more interactive option:
http://www.embeddedcontrolconcepts.c...ample_System_1
__________________
BCS-460 Temperature Controller - Interactive web based interface, data logging, and programmable control rules.
http://www.embeddedcc.com
Become an ECC fan on Facebook

 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2009, 06:50 PM   #6
passedpawn
Waste Allocation Load Lifter - Earth Class
HBT_ADMIN.png
 
passedpawn's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Apr 2009
☼ Clearwater, FL ☼
Posts: 25,873
Liked 6705 Times on 3963 Posts


PID has an input and an output.

The PID watches the input (i.e., temperature sensor). If that input drops below a specified temperature (setpoint), the PID turns the output on. When the input exceeds the the setpoint, the output turns off. That is about it. Some PIDs have other modes (i.e., a "manual" mode that ignores the input and just pulses the output at a user-defined duty cycle).

Look up the definition of PID on wiki for much more detail than you need.

Note that the output can only drive small current. So, to switch large loads (like an electrical heating element), you need a relay. Mechanical relays aren't very good for constant switching, so solid state relays (SSR) jump in to help.
__________________
- Andrew

 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2009, 11:53 PM   #7
BrewBeemer
Recipes 
 
Feb 2006
small island paradise, the lost atoll
Posts: 3,505
Liked 25 Times on 25 Posts


By the time you purchase all the PID's you'll have more money invested vs a single BCS 460 contoller unit besides having the ability to up and down load for future repeatable brewing sessions. When I sold my last brewing system that was the last time i'll own PID's, this is my thinking from past PID usage.
Pick which system makes you happy.
__________________
Bier Jagdwaffe... Bier 30 zeit.....~~=o&o>..........


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2009, 01:12 AM   #8
passedpawn
Waste Allocation Load Lifter - Earth Class
HBT_ADMIN.png
 
passedpawn's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Apr 2009
☼ Clearwater, FL ☼
Posts: 25,873
Liked 6705 Times on 3963 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by BrewBeemer View Post
By the time you purchase all the PID's you have more money invested vs a single BCS 460 contoller unit besides having the ability to up and down load for future repeatable brewing sessions. When I sold my last brewing system that was the last time i'll own PID's, this is my thinking from past PID usage.
Pick which system makes you happy.
I'd prefer to brew without a computer. To each his own.
__________________
- Andrew

 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2009, 01:23 AM   #9
conpewter
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
 
conpewter's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Nov 2007
East Dundee, Illinois
Posts: 5,108
Liked 53 Times on 48 Posts


The electric system I built only needs one PID and one SSR so it cuts down on the costs a bit.
__________________
"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people." - V

Primary: Nothin
Secondary: Shady Lord RIS, Water to Barleywine, Pumpkin wine, burnt mead
Kegged: Crappy infected mild
Bottles: Apfelwein, 999 Barleywine, Oatmeal Stout, Robust Porter, Robust smoked porter, Simcoe Smash

 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2009, 01:27 AM   #10
Fingers
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
 
Fingers's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Jan 2007
Lac du Bonnet, Manitoba
Posts: 4,216
Liked 45 Times on 36 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by BrewBeemer View Post
By the time you purchase all the PID's you have more money invested vs a single BCS 460 contoller unit besides having the ability to up and down load for future repeatable brewing sessions. When I sold my last brewing system that was the last time i'll own PID's, this is my thinking from past PID usage.
Pick which system makes you happy.

I like that controller. I can see one in my future as I convert my brewery to electric. Thanks for the tip.
__________________
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.

 
Reply With Quote


Reply
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Johnson Temp Controls daveooph131 Equipment/Sanitation 6 06-05-2011 04:32 AM
No Temp Controls - Options? cyclonebeer Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 2 11-19-2008 01:35 AM
How do you convert the Johnson Controls temp regulator? Bouza Equipment/Sanitation 4 11-09-2008 11:27 PM
Freezer into a lagerator... just add temp controls? beergears Equipment/Sanitation 0 04-29-2008 06:14 PM
Johnson Controls Temp Regulator used with a Freezer? RLinNH General Techniques 3 12-01-2007 07:53 PM


Forum Jump