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Old 10-05-2009, 10:04 PM   #1
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Myself and bubbachunk started OU's first and only homebrewing club on campus. We spent over four months preparing for this event to be held on campus (which is a big deal around here with our party reputation as a school and all). We brewed up over 70 gallons as a club to prepare and then BAM!

Here check it out:

http://athensnews.com/news/local-new...iscate-13-kegs

This was just supposed to be an easy going, fun natured event and the state of Ohio decides to treat us like meth dealers. They even shut down a brew demo on site saying it was illegal.

 
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:11 PM   #2
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That sucks - there are so many better ways it could have been handled. And, they better keep those kegs chilled and return them full!!

 
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:13 PM   #3
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That really sucks.

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Old 10-05-2009, 10:24 PM   #4
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What a douche move on their part. Sorry to hear things went so poorly.
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:31 PM   #5
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That really sucks but after reading the story I have to say what you were doing was illegal. Selling the homebrew for $1 was the key in getting the attention of the OIU. Had it been free I'm not sure there would have been a problem. The permit you guys had covered the sale of alcohol that was legal to sell. The kegs that they took was all the homebrew. They didn't take the keg of PBR because your permit covered that.

It sucks a lot but and I feel for you with all the time and effort put into it, but I think the police didn't overstep their bounds. The only thing that seemed fishy was shutting down the brewing demonstration. I'm sure the laws vary from place to place but I know plenty of places where it is legal.

Next year just charge an admission fee and have a mix of homebrew and commercial beer so you can attest that the commercial beer was covered by the admission fee and the homebrew was free. (Not to be taken as legal advise since I'm almost as clueless as the next guy on alcohol laws )
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:32 PM   #6
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You have to act first. File a suit as a student union. Contact a lawyer in a city not around the university. Looks like you guys have a great case. Few questions arise, like, did they have warrents, who issued the orders, etc etc. If they had a valid reason, perhaps it was a finable offence only, and the confication was not warrented. Lotsa questions to be asked. I think you all have a valid counter case.

I only work with lawyers, would be nice if one here could wiegh in on this.


http://www.com.ohio.gov/liqr/PermitClasses.aspx
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:42 PM   #7
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That really sucks but after reading the story I have to say what you were doing was illegal. Selling the homebrew for $1 was the key in getting the attention of the OIU. Had it been free I'm not sure there would have been a problem. The permit you guys had covered the sale of alcohol that was legal to sell. The kegs that they took was all the homebrew. They didn't take the keg of PBR because your permit covered that.

It sucks a lot but and I feel for you with all the time and effort put into it, but I think the police didn't overstep their bounds. The only thing that seemed fishy was shutting down the brewing demonstration. I'm sure the laws vary from place to place but I know plenty of places where it is legal.

Next year just charge an admission fee and have a mix of homebrew and commercial beer so you can attest that the commercial beer was covered by the admission fee and the homebrew was free. (Not to be taken as legal advise since I'm almost as clueless as the next guy on alcohol laws )
This sounds right to me. If there's any one topic we've beaten to death over the years, it's the legality of selling homebrew (er.. illegality). Might be a technicality, but given that this is an area that's so tightly regulated, seems to me that as the organizers, you HAVE TO confirm absolutely what could and could not be done (can't make assumptions on this stuff).

Dumping the wort, though? That's cops that are pissed off about having to deal with this, overstepping their bounds. You're a lot more likely (in my non-legal opinion) to have a bitch about that than about having the kegs confiscated.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:02 PM   #8
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In Oregon, you can't sell or give away homebrew, except in very small samples. We were giving out homebrew at the last fest. We thought we were complying with all the regs, but someone decided that people could only have one sample of homebrew for the whole fest. Now how the heck does one enforce that??
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:19 PM   #9
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I hate to say it, but the minute you sell homebrew, you give homebrewing a bad name. That's the biggest part of what made homebrewing legal in the us, that we can't sell it, even in a not for profit situation.

I know you didn't do it on purpose, but still you should know from here that selling is a no-no.....Primarily because it's untaxed.

It says it right here in the article.
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The undercover officers told student organizers that the permit they obtained to hold the event did not cover the distribution of unregulated homebrew, said Bret Baker, a chemical engineering senior and president of OU's Brew Crew that organized the event along with the American Institute of Chemical Engineers.
You're just lucky you guys didn't get busted.

The sad part is, that if you had come to us frst, we may have given you a heads up....there's very little lee-way with the gubment, where the words, "money" and "Homebrew" are concerned.
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Old 10-06-2009, 12:36 AM   #10
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I was assuming that the "sale" of $1 per beer the cops where refering to as the reason for the bust was not a sale but a "donation". If it was a $1 donation then this changes everything I believe. Am I right to assume this?
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