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Old 10-10-2012, 12:29 PM   #451
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as mentioned above, it's the *air* in your basement that is 66*F. what we're concerned about is the temperature of the beer and making sure that it stays at approx 66* - and air isn't very good at ensuring this. the yeast activity will generate more heat than air can take away = beer heats up.

water in contact with the outside of the bucket or carboy will be much more effective at removing excess heat. so yes, i would recommend a tub of cooled water.

ideally you should also have some way of monitoring the temperature of the beer. the fancy way is to have some sort of a thermometer or temp probe in your beer. a much cheaper approach is to use a LCD thermo-strip stuck to the outside of your bucket or carboy (sometimes referred to as aquarium thermometers for fermometers). make sure that the LCD strip is above the level of the water, but below the level of the beer:
This is an AWESOME explanation, thank you sweetcell. I was going to chime in, but you covered it well!

A lot of folks think that the room temp is the temp of their beer during fermentation....NO SO. Fermenting above 70F is going to give you fusel (hot) alcohols and a lot of esters, depending on the yeast strain.

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Old 10-10-2012, 01:49 PM   #452
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This is an AWESOME explanation, thank you sweetcell.
Completely agree. Put my fermentor in a swamp cooler last night - hopefully it helps. The krausen is pretty low on it right now, though the airlock sounded like a machine gun last night when I got home from work. This morning it had slowed a little - I think I'll keep the bucket in the cooler until at least sunday though, just to be sure.

I might start looking for a cheap chest freezer on craigslist. I bought one a few years ago that I have since gotten rid of. I turned it into a kegerator - might have to do something similar to keep the brews cold during fermentation.

Thanks again for the advice!
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:06 PM   #453
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glad i could help

ideally, you want to keep the temps stable and consistent. yeast tend to complain when they're cooled too much, it can cause them to go to sleep and settle out (this is what happens when you cold crash). so try to avoid temp spikes that require cooling of several degrees.

i don't have a fancy automated setup. i simply look at the temp indicated by my stick-on thermometers and add ice (quick cooling) and ice packs (slower, long-term cooling) as needed. took me a few batches to figure out, but i've gotten pretty good at it. trick is to check up on your fermentor as often as you can... and who doesn't need an extra excuse to go spend a little time with their beer?!?

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I might start looking for a cheap chest freezer on craigslist.
I have a 1950's Norge chest freezer I picked up for $50 years ago from CL. It weighs something like 450 pounds empty, all steel, but it still works like a champ!

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Old 10-14-2012, 12:24 PM   #455
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Checked my gravity today after 9 days in primary and it was 1.012. Sg of 1.079. Pitched 2 11g packs of unrehydrated s04. Held steady at 68 degrees. Any idea why so low? I expected to finish 1.020 or so since it was extract. Puts it at around 8.8%. Tasted ok, but pretty bitter. Maybe it's the coffee and chocolate.

My grain steep got to 180 degrees for about 5 minutes (putting kids to bed) so I hope that wasn't the culprit.
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Distributer near me had Founders Breakfast Stout available. I immediately snatched a couple of 4-packs. I wanted to make a side by side comparison as I am down to my last 4 bottles from last years batch. The recipe posted is spot on. The only differences I noted was that Founders was a touch fresher. The coffee stood out a touch more, the body was fuller from the oats. I attribute this to freshness as my clone was a year old. But I do recall after only a few months old, this was pretty much exact to the commercial version
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Brewed this yesterday and my OG is 1.092. 2 oz. Of ground coffee in boil should be interesting. There was a lot of 15 minute additions. And I almost forgot cacco nibs. Looking forward to end results.
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I know that there is a huge debate whether to use a secondary or not, but I was wondering if anyone has made this recipe with just a primary. Also if only a primary was used, how long did you leave the brew in there? I wasn't sure if a secondary was needed because of all the chocolate and coffee left at the bottom of the primary.

I always have used secondary's in the past, but I'm just trying to save a step.
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I know that there is a huge debate whether to use a secondary or not, but I was wondering if anyone has made this recipe with just a primary. Also if only a primary was used, how long did you leave the brew in there? I wasn't sure if a secondary was needed because of all the chocolate and coffee left at the bottom of the primary.

I always have used secondary's in the past, but I'm just trying to save a step.
I think it's needed with this beer. SO MUCH CRAP in the primary.

I racked good and still had a ton of stuff fall out in secondary, especially if you used powder chocolate.
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I always use secondary myself, for clarity in lighter colored beer and to help clear out some of the thicker stuff in brew with so many adjuncts. I think I read somewhere it's recommended with higher gravity beer like this also.
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