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Old 09-18-2009, 07:50 PM   #21
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Are you really going to sell beer? You know the black boot guys at ATF will come visiting. For a permit you can not have wood and have to meet loads of health stuff.
It's now called the TTB and they are the last ones I'm waiting on. I have my Sellers Permit but the TTB has to give me a Brewer's Notice before I can sell.


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It may be none of my business and I hate to be a stickler but do you have the proper licenses to sell your product? its just that I work with a lot of state/federal mandates and I'd hate to see ya get jammed up... one of my insureds is in jail and paid a 1 million $ fine because he wasn't licensed to perform the operations he was doing .. bridge repairs for the state.

He made 2 million on the project . So after expenses they hit him with about 300k more than he made
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I would presume that there is licensing and such involved? How much is a license to sell alcohol running you? Taxes on production? Are there certain regulatory mandates that dictate the design, layout or operation since you are producing something for consumption and sale?
There are web sites that list all the permits and licenses etc.. necessary. I'm still dealing with the state and feds but it's all going well. They're not used to such a small operation. Right now I'm basically a homebrewer wanting to sell his beer. I don't have all the numbers but it's something like .20/gallon excise tax, $1,000 Surety Bond, around $400 for upfront taxes and license fees. I still need to get a label okayed from both state and feds. Everyone wants a piece of the pie.


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Once they all get a piece, any idea what volumes you have to produce and sell to break even?
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Old 09-18-2009, 08:17 PM   #24
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Once they all get a piece, any idea what volumes you have to produce and sell to break even?
Given a lack of overhead and low rent where the beer will be sold, I'll be making a profit after three 5 gallon cornies/month.
The only reason I decided to do this was because my brother does his wine tastings out of a small store in a great location. Plus I was lucky enough to meet a guy who was going to open a Brewery but decided to go winery instead and he's "long term loaning" me all the brewing equipment he has. I just have to give him a beer once in awhile. This includes a complete 7 bbl system, should I ever need it. But a nice 3 tier to start plus brewing vessels, otherwise I would have never considered it.
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Awesome. Best of luck to you. Living the dream for the rest of us.
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Old 09-18-2009, 08:41 PM   #26
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I still need to get a label okayed from both state and feds. Everyone wants a piece of the pie.
I was recently reading about all of the requirements and restrictions on the label. I had no idea there were that many rules for a label on a bottle of beer.

Best of luck! I'm jealous.
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Looks awesome! Best of luck to you!
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will there be some kind of bottling setup in there?
I think his plan is to hire a bunch of 18 year olds in bikinis and give them beer guns.

Looks great, looking forward to watching the progress...
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Id love to brew beer, but that means Id be home daily, and I cannot handle that!!!

Kudos to you for converting your hobby.

Will this be THE income soon, or is this a side gig like my part time writing gig is, to fund my other vices?
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Id love to brew beer, but that means Id be home daily, and I cannot handle that!!!

Kudos to you for converting your hobby.

Will this be THE income soon, or is this a side gig like my part time writing gig is, to fund my other vices?
Only a side gig. Perhaps something to retire to in 20 years. I work from home and the brewery is 38 ft from my house so it works for me right now.


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