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Old 10-02-2009, 02:33 AM   #111
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What size batches are you planning on doing when you officially go pro?
I'll start with 10 gallon batches and go from there. I have the two 15 gallon Sanke fermenters and the pots on the 3 tier are all 15 gallon which will net about 13 gallons. 10 to sell and 3 to keep.


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Old 10-05-2009, 01:06 AM   #112
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so do you have to get a health/sanitation inspection to come check you out?


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Old 10-05-2009, 02:07 AM   #113
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This is interesting, but at 6 hours per batch and 10 gallons, figure on selling the sixtels for 80 bucks each (which is super expensive) you are getting 160 dollars per batch revenue. Take out the cost of running the brewery,ingredients, taxes, licensing.

You are not going to make any money to speak of.

I know in SC licensing costs 2000 dollars a year, which would come down to almost 20 batches of profit for you...
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:37 AM   #114
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so do you have to get a health/sanitation inspection to come check you out?
No. They don't really care about that. I could be bottling road apples for all they care. As long as they get their tax money from it.
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:44 AM   #115
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This is interesting, but at 6 hours per batch and 10 gallons, figure on selling the sixtels for 80 bucks each (which is super expensive) you are getting 160 dollars per batch revenue. Take out the cost of running the brewery,ingredients, taxes, licensing.

You are not going to make any money to speak of.

I know in SC licensing costs 2000 dollars a year, which would come down to almost 20 batches of profit for you...
License is very cheap here. My overhead is very, very low. 6 hours seems a long time per batch but this isn't going to be my main income, it's only a side gig for now. If it all folded right now I'd be left with a cool man-cave/brewery and not owing any bank or anything.
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Old 10-05-2009, 04:51 AM   #116
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cool build thread. where would one obtain information about licensing in their own state?
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Old 10-05-2009, 05:27 AM   #117
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If it all folded right now I'd be left with a cool man-cave/brewery and not owing any bank or anything.
I would be very impressed if you could squeeze any profit out of this venture at all. It's good to see you have a plan "B" lined up. I don't want to discourage you, but it doesn't pencil out well at all.
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Old 10-05-2009, 05:35 AM   #118
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cool build thread. where would one obtain information about licensing in their own state?
http://tax.state.nv.us/

http://www.businesslicenses.com/Lice...License-48405/


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I just wanted to chime in here because we are working on a similar brewery setup. Ours will be very slightly larger, but that is not the point. For us, there is a very strong allure to starting so small that failure is nothing more than a big disappointment. For me, the number reason *not* to open a brewery is because of the huge risk of failure if you drop 100K+ in equipment, location, etc... With the way me and my partner (and also HBHoss, it seems) are starting, there is very little risk of failure and little risk of wild success. Sure, we won't make much money (if any) per batch brewing at our size, the thing you have to remember is, if HBHoss gets tons of business and everyone wants his beer, it probably takes less than $1,000 and a week's worth of work to build out his system and quadruple his batch size. The important thing is that you're growing at the same size as your market, rather than starting at 10 BBL's and waiting 1.5 years for your market to catch up.

The other thing is that its just really cool to say you own a brewery!

This is looking great HBHoss! I'm really enjoying following your progress.
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I just wanted to chime in here because we are working on a similar brewery setup. Ours will be very slightly larger, but that is not the point. For us, there is a very strong allure to starting so small that failure is nothing more than a big disappointment. For me, the number reason *not* to open a brewery is because of the huge risk of failure if you drop 100K+ in equipment, location, etc... With the way me and my partner (and also HBHoss, it seems) are starting, there is very little risk of failure and little risk of wild success. Sure, we won't make much money (if any) per batch brewing at our size, the thing you have to remember is, if HBHoss gets tons of business and everyone wants his beer, it probably takes less than $1,000 and a week's worth of work to build out his system and quadruple his batch size. The important thing is that you're growing at the same size as your market, rather than starting at 10 BBL's and waiting 1.5 years for your market to catch up.

The other thing is that its just really cool to say you own a brewery!

This is looking great HBHoss! I'm really enjoying following your progress.
I have a 7bbl system waiting for me once the need arises. I figure the IRS gives me 5 years to make money. If I break even or make a little money right now that's fine. Gives me a chance to refine my brewing technique and give the locals some good beer (hopefully).


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